[nagdu] Disabled veteran kicked off US Airways plane, refused to put service dog on floor
leg1950 at cox.net
Sun Sep 8 16:41:21 UTC 2013
That vet wasn't even considering that a dog on the seat is dangerous because
it can't wear a seatbelt like the humans do. He needs to realize that the
dog is safer on the floor with its butt under the seat in front of him.
Sounds like he was spoiling for a fight anyway. Who needs to have someone
going ballistic at 30,000 feet.
Lyn and Landon
"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled veteran kicked off US Airways plane,refused to
put service dog on floor
Actually Aleeha, he was wrong. The vet, I mean. He isn’t covered in this
case by the ADA, but rather the Air Carrier Access Act. So in one respect he
was correct: the airline *doesn’t* need to obey the ADA, they need to obey
the ACAA. Well, he was right, just not in the way he thought he was. I still
say the airline did more for him than I’d’ve done though. I’d’ve been the
guy that got everyone pissed because I’d tell him he got to find his own way
to El Paso.
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
On Sep 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, I think he landed in the media because of his interpretation. How many
> people would actually try to have the dog ride in the seat? Maybe more
> than I think, but either those folk don't know the rules, he wasn't all
> together, or he was banking on the ignorance of the employees. That would
> not be too hard to bank on either. He just lost out on that one. I'd say
> he came out pretty well though with a free night in the hotel as a result
> of his activities.
> On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>> I'm going to state my honest opinion here and say the airline was in
>> the right here. I agree that the dog should have been on the floor of
>> the aircraft. It doesn't seem right that this passenger is using his
>> disability and service to this country as an excuse for having the dog
>> on a seat rather than the floor. In fact, he isn't being denied entry
>> to the plane, but the airline is merely asking him to obey the
>> guidelines issued by the same act this gentleman claims, and quite
>> accurately so, gives him the right to have the dog. Just the fact that
>> he speaks untruths so loudly landed him a spot in the media, which is
>> quite disturbing.
>> Aleeha and Dallas
>> On 9/6/13, Ginger Kutsch <GingerKutsch at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Disabled veteran kicked off US Airways plane, refused to put service dog
>>> Sep 05, 2013 8:46 PM EDT
>>> By FOX 10 News - Staff Report
>>> A newly released video has put valley-based US Airways in a tough
>>> A Vietnam vet with a service dog got into a heated discussion with a
>>> attendant and then was escorted off the plane for security reasons.
>>> Video: "No! I'd appreciate if you'd get the hell off this ground and get
>>> where we're going!"
>>> Emotions ran high onboard a US Airways flight from Phoenix to El Paso.
>>> video has gone viral.
>>> "I'm sorry folks but I've earned the right to have this service animal
>>> because of my service to this country in Vietnam. I am 100 percent
>>> I have a service dog because of it and everyone has to obey the ADA laws
>>> except this airline! So I'm sorry but I'm not budging!"
>>> This passenger wants his service dog, a golden retriever, to remain
>>> on the empty seat next to him.
>>> A US Airways spokesman said the rules are pretty clear. Service animals
>>> to remain on the ground and under the seat in front of you.
>>> "If the aircraft were to experience something in the air and it needs to
>>> evacuate you don't want that animal to be in the way of people getting
>>> the aircraft," says US Airways spokesman John McDonald.
>>> McDonald says there was also the safety of other passengers at risk
>>> The man told airport personnel he suffered from PTSD. They worried he
>>> get even more upset in the air.
>>> "We had had conversations to the customer trying to explain what was
>>> on. And the captain was involved when the flight attendant wasn't able
>>> resolve it and in fact, many of our captains are former military people,
>>> this is an issue we are very familiar with and unfortunately this
>>> gentleman's reaction was what resulted in the incident."
>>> The Saturday flight was delayed. US Airways says it handled the
>>> best it could.
>>> Airport police cited the man with trespassing and booked him on another
>>> There wasn't another flight out on Saturday, so the man was rebooked on
>>> Sunday flight. US Airways covered the cost for a hotel room for the
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