[nagdu] Getting a dog guide

Thu Sep 26 13:50:21 UTC 2013

Thanks, Steve for that information!

Definitely something to keep in mind when I decide what to do for a 
successorr dog
Shanna And Diamond

On 9/26/2013 5:34 AM, Steven Johnson wrote:
> Swhannon, over the past few years, Leader has introduced a new line of GSD's
> that have really looked at the underlying issue in most programs where
> over-breeding has occurred.  They now have a much stronger GSD gene pool to
> tap into, and as I had noted in an earlier post, also have a very strong and
> solid Golden gene pool.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shanna Stichler
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:28 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a dog guide
>
> I've seen a couple very nice leader dogs. I'd have considered going there
> except their wait for Shepherds was too long.
>
> Shanna and Diamond
> :DOn 9/25/2013 10:10 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> They are pretty good.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelby Young"
>> <blindatbirth at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a dog guide
>>
>>
>>> Larry,
>>> What do you think of the leader dogs? Any input good or bad would be
>>> helpful for me.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:21 PM, "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pilot is in Columbus Ohio. They use 7 regular breeds of dog and
>>>> sometimes some halfbreeds. Like Holly who was a donation. They do
>>>> things a little differently but, I really like them.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelby Young"
>>>> <blindatbirth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Getting a dog guide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rhonda,
>>>>> I have never heard of pilots before. Maybe I will check them out.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 7:46 PM, rhonda cruz
>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi shelby,
>>>>>> i have a german sheppard from pilot. dogs.
>>>>>> and. i've been working with her.
>>>>>> for 4 years.
>>>>>> i'm totally blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Shelby,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Fidelco guide dog. Others will bad mouth the school due
>>>>>>> to a poorly worded ownership policy, and an incident of them
>>>>>>> reclaiming a dog under circumstances that have never been fully
>>>>>>> explained to anyone. That being said, I have never had a problem
>>>>>>> with them, nor have several people I know who are also Fidelco
>>>>>>> clients.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like all living things, my dog is not perfect, and has good days
>>>>>>> and bad. Sometimes he does things that are not ideal, however,
>>>>>>> 95% of the time, his work is spot on, and I have never had a
>>>>>>> significant issue with his work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The schools give you all the essentials, thus making the startup
>>>>>>> cost essentially zero. However, you may choose to get some things
>>>>>>> such as an air tight dog food storage container, a tray to go
>>>>>>> under the dog boles, or a dog bed. All of these things are
>>>>>>> useful, but not essential.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something to think about when considering a guide dog is cost.
>>>>>>> Some of the recurring costs to consider are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Food (monthly approximately $80)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vet (yearly approximately $150)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grooming (monthly approximately 25)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Supplements, flee and tick preventative, ETC (annually $250 EST.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These recurring cost will vary depending on several external
>>>>>>> factors and will be different for each dog guide handler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelby Young"
>>>>>>> <blindatbirth at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Getting a dog guide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>> I do not have a guide dog yet, but in considering getting one. I
>>>>>>>> have posted on the blind parents list and blind parents group on
>>>>>>>> Facebook, so if this is a repeat I apologize.
>>>>>>>> Where did you get your dog from? Where would you consider
>>>>>>>> getting your dog from? What breed of dog do you like the best,
>>>>>>>> why and why not? Do you have children while using your dog? What
>>>>>>>> things what I need to purchase for my dog before hand, and what
>>>>>>>> things do the schools usually give?
>>>>>>>> I am looking into Fidelco guide dogs foundation or leader dogs
>>>>>>>> for the blind. I talk to Fidelco and like that they do and
>>>>>>>> community placement. I have a son, almost 14 months old and
>>>>>>>> don't have the option to leave him for at least two weeks. I
>>>>>>>> spoke with leader dogs and they said they could come to my home
>>>>>>>> as well. They only do that on special circumstances though.
>>>>>>>> Leader dogs will send me the class lectures before hand so I can
>>>>>>>> master them. Does anyone have any thoughts on either of these
>>>>>>>> schools? Please let me know the good, the bad and the ugly.
>>>>>>>> I am not completely set on getting a guy, it's just something I
>>>>>>>> am looking into and would like as much information as possible.
>>>>>>>> I apologize for any typing mistakes, I'm using dictation on my
>>>>>>>> phone and don't have the time to go fix everything.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Shelby
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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That's really good to know, Steve! Thanks for enlightening me. * smile*