[nagdu] Reading to dogs? WAS A CCB resolution on changes to have certification for service dogs

Wed Apr 2 19:47:41 UTC 2014

Thanks for the info.  I have never heard of such a program.

The only such program in Canada on a consistent basis is in Ottawa, and the dogs are owner-trained but under the umbrella of the program itself.  Once a year or so, the library in my mother's area does a "read to the dogs" event.

I guess what got my hackles up was the way she said it.  "I am going to get Max declared as a service dog, so that then I can take him everywhere... like schools and libraries."

Daryl
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Actually, Reading to the dogs is a legitimate program. When I worked at GDB,
our instructors often took some of the dogs in training to schools for read
to the dogs days. It's helps the kids feel more comfortable reading and is
apparently a great service. 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 1:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have certification for
service dogs

Hey,

I am at this point furious with my mother.  She is wanting to "license" her
Bouvier dog as a "service dog" to be able to go into schools and libraries
to have kids read to him... or something. It's great for their self-esteem!

Granted he is a reasonably well-behaved dog (as evidenced by the grand total
of 12 hours I spent with him).. but this just makes me mad!  Am I
overreacting? I don't know....

Daryl
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have certification for
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Oh boy... I don't even know where to start. 
All I can say is, that if these people hope to change the law to fall in
line with this resolution, they're going to have one heck of a fight on
their hands.  
I'm not keen on some schmuck at walmart being able to demand some kind of
paperwork from me with who knows what kind of personal information on it to
prove something.  The law already has outlined the things a person can ask,
and a service animal can be judged by its behavior, and if someone puts
enough time into training their pet so that it is as well behaved as a
service dog, frankly I don't care if it's in public.  
The key here is task training, and if dogs are behaving badly, are not house
trained, are being disruptive, then as outlined in the law, the owner can
be, and should be, asked to remove the dog. 
Lastly, if anyone finds a self trained service dog, do let me know!  I'd
sure would love a dog who could train itself.  Would save me a ton of work! 

 Rox and the kitchen Bitches: 
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
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> On Apr 2, 2014, at 1:44 PM, "L Gwizdak" <leg1950 at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Here is something that will impact guide dog users and service dog users
that I got on another list.
> 
> This resolution to be presented at the CCB convention in California was
drafted to address the problems of fake service dogs.  What do you all
think?  Could this be a remedy to the problem of people passing off their
pets as service dogs in places of public accomidation?  I wonder if this may
be the only was or is there another way.
> 
> Here it is pasted below:
> 
> Whereas: Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act defines the
rights
> of people with disabilities to access places of public accommodation, and
> 
> Whereas: These access rights are extended to service animal handlers as
> defined in the 2011 ADA Accessibility Guidelines, and
> 
> Whereas: These service animal access rights are also guaranteed by
numerous
> state and local statutes, and
> 
> Whereas, Due to weaknesses in the relevant legislation and the general
> ignorance that exists about the legal definition of service animals and of
> their access rights, there exists an epidemic of persons fraudulently
> bringing their pets into places of public accommodation under the pretext
> that they are service animals, and
> 
> Whereas, The presence and bad behavior of fake service animals in places
of
> public accommodation places the access rights of legitimate service animal
> handlers at risk, Therefore be it
> 
> Resolved by Guide Dog Users of California meeting at the Arden West Hilton
> Hotel in Sacramento, California on April 12, 2014 that this organization
> shall strive to put an end to service animal fraud by  actively
> participating in a coalition of like-minded groups to advocate for the
> following changes in law and to engage in  other related activities.
> 
> 1. The coalition shall seek changes to ADA regulations and to other
relevant
> federal statutes and regulations  as follows.
> 
> 1.1. The ADA regulations must be amended to permit providers of public
> accommodations to require service animal handlers to show documentation to
> verify the status of their animals as a condition for extending their
> accommodation rights to their animals.
> 
> 1.2. Federal law must permit states and local governments to enact service
> animal licensure requirements to make it easier for providers of public
> accommodations to distinguish service animals from pets, provided that
such
> licensure requirements do not impede the access rights of service animal
> handlers and that the licensure requirements are no more costly than those
> imposed on pet owners..
> 
> 1.3. Federal law must  restrict  the interstate sale of service animal
> identification products to legitimate service animal training programs and
> to individuals who can provide proof of the status of their service
animals.
> Vendors who fail to follow these requirements must be subject to fines
large
> enough to discourage the traffic in fake service animal products.
> 
> 2. The coalition must develop model state laws and regulations as
described
> below and then advocate throughout the nation for the enactment of these
> statutes.
> 
> 2.1. States must implement service animal license laws compliant with item
> 1.2 above.  These laws must provide for the licensing of animals issued
> through recognized training programs and also provide for the licensing of
> self-trained service animals.
> 
> 2.2. States must enact prohibitions on the intrastate sale of fraudulent
> service animal identification products that are comparable to the
> prohibitions described in item 1.3.
> 
> 3. The Coalition shall develop and execute an education campaign to inform
> the public about the definition of a service animal, about the access
rights
> of service animal handlers and about the negative consequences of and the
> legal penalties for service animal fraud.
> 
> 
> Frank Welte
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> 
> 
> 
> Lyn and Landon
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> 
>> Jewel, good luck in your class.Hope you get that special dog and have
many
>> years of partnership.I hope you won't get rained on to much,lol.Have a
>> great time in class. Mardi and Shaman and Neechee.
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