[nagdu] Doggie eating chicken?

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Apr 14 02:17:43 UTC 2014


I will aggree that proteins are denatured in the cooking process. I will 
further aggree that some antibodies can be built up to the bacteria in raw 
foods. However, it is speculated that cooking of food was a big help in 
increasing the life spans of humans by denaturing viruses and killing 
parasites and bacteria. Holly gets an egg every so often, giblets and an 
occassional treat. I don't cook the dogs foods in grease,or spice. I also 
don't overcook it. She loves it and is healthy. I have never heard of a dog 
with salmonella but I have heard of humans having it. My biggest concern 
with that is cleaning up after a dog that had uit. Yes, all those bacteria 
are all around us but, most don't get in you or your dog. Having a biology 
background, I've studied a lot of micro bugs! Also, when I got my food 
certification when I was a vendor, I again studied what came from what and 
how you could get it. My dogs are healthy and are working well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
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> Agreed. Also, if microwaving food is so bad, why haven't we died from it
> yet?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 4:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie eating chicken?
>
> Well, salmonella is specific to bird intestines as well as those of
> reptiles. I wouldn't take the chance of giving my dog raw birds. Maybe 
> beef.
>
> Most raw meat can contain a number of parasites and bacteria which heat 
> will
> kill. For dogs you don't have to use spices or cook the stuff until its 
> dry
> but, I really believe in killing that stuff before it gets into me or my
> dogs.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raven Tolliver" <ravend729 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie eating chicken?
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>> First, microwaving food for anyone is unhealthy.
>> Second, Raw meat is digested quickly by dogs, and so the opportunity
>> for the food to sit and harbor bacteria in the GI tract is highly
>> unlikely. Kibble is more likely to harbor salmonella given its
>> exposure to ghastly conditions, and because it is digested slower.
>> Thirdly, Salmonella and bacteria are everywhere. They're on your
>> hands, shoes, floors, clothes, counter tops,. You can't avoid it.
>> Fortunately, everyone has an immune system that protects their body
>> from becoming ill upon exposure to every species of microorganism.
>> This is a non-issue.
>>
>> On 4/13/14, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I usually take those pieces and cook them in a microwave for a minute
>>> or two
>>>
>>> without spicing them or anything. For me, the risk of giving or
>>> getting salmonelloa from raw chicken is too great. So I would cook
>>> them. I would also give the dog the neck flesh without the bones.
>>> Many dogs can choke omn
>>>
>>> those.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Daryl Marie" <crazymusician at shaw.ca>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:47 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Doggie eating chicken?
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi!
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a very polarized subject, and I remember ALL the
>>>> posts about feeding raw a month ago...
>>>>
>>>> While I am not sure about feeding raw on a regular basis, I have a
>>>> couple
>>>>
>>>> questions:
>>>>
>>>> My husband and I are making a whole chicken today.  I was wondering,
>>>> instead of throwing out the pieces you normally would, would giving
>>>> them to Jenny raw be a good idea?  This would include the neck, organs,
> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I figured I would put them in her food bowl for her supper, thereby
>>>> showing her that this is OK for her to eat.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any pointers, advice, whatever? Or am I severely
>>>> overthinking this?
>>>>
>>>> Daryl and Jenny
>>>>
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