[nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
barbandzoe at comcast.net
barbandzoe at comcast.net
Tue Apr 29 17:19:29 UTC 2014
I was reading this and it gave me a lot to think about. I also liked the part about not telling everyone your dogs name. It is different if you are in a city you will never visit, or your own neighbor hood. I would not want all the neighbors calling my dogs name while I am out walking/
I also don't want people just petting the dog because you don't know if they real know how to be nice to the dog or what. and I know the dogs are very well behaved, but if the dog tool a disliking to someone and growled at them, I would be unhappy and a bit scared. Not with the dog but the person.
Barb
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From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
To: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:59:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
Dear Caroline,
In my own case, I want children with disabilities, especially cognitive disabilities, not to fear my dog since most of my work has been with people with different disabilities, and what Rox was saying, for some the world is mostly touch.
Darla & Happy Huck
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
I guess I don't understand why a child with a disability gets preferential treatment with petting? It sounds sweet and all, but why not treat them the way you would any other child? They're special because they're human, not because they happen to have a disability.
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
Dear Rox,
Great points, and I'd never ever have a problem with a child of any disability petting my dog, so long as he isn't bouncing up and down, etc., but you're right: I need to make what I have more attractive than being pelted.
Darla & Happy Huck
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower Pack
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
With Soleil, I have used petting as a practice time for self control. She loves people, and right at first, I knew that I was going to just have to restrict all petting, or use the petting as an exercise. Since I'm Deafblind, people tend to just pet because they are not getting my attention with me by asking unless I'm with a hearing person.
So if I have time to allow petting, I first tell her down. I tell the person wanting to pet that she can only be pet in a down and that if she gets up, they are to stop, I thank them for helping me with her training, so they feel good. They pet her and then in mid pet I ask her to come away and touch my hand and click and treat. She is a lab, so would rather eat than lay and get petted. And her getting up ends the session. If people pet without asking she will turn to me.
My coworkers and friends also help in this exercise as well.
Because I'm Deafblind and a lot of my friends are deafblind, and I work with deafblind children, she has to learn to be touched without coming unhinged with joy. Deafblind people are a pretty tactile lot and if a deafblind child has never seen a guide dog, they can look at her— with their hands— and learn. So far, Soleil's doing really well!
Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
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> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:41 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Generally I just say, "No, but thank you for asking." I smile and make it seem like them asking was a wonderful thing. Then I move on. Standing there will encourage a discussion or debate or whatever, moving on indicates that you don't want to discuss your no petting rule and it also reinforces that you need to get stuff done and don't have time for petting.
>
> I do allow petting on occasion. If I do I let the person know it's up to Monty if he wants to be petted. I give Monty his release cue and let him approach if he wants. Usually he will give the person a perfunctory sniff and he's done. Every now and then he will back away from the person, which is kind of embarrassing, but they get it that he doesn't want to be petted. He's not very into meet and greet with people though, so this works.
>
> Last week I was in the grocery store and there was a Mom with about four kids. The kids wanted to pet Monty and asked their Mom. Usually parents just say the dog is working and leave it alone, but this Mom went on a complete tirade. I thought the kids were perfectly well behaved in asking their Mom first if they could approach me to ask if they could pet, but Mom really lit into them. Then she was on to another topic and how horrible the kids were and on and on and on. So about four isles later I asked one of the kids if he would like to pet the dog. It made the kids day. I can't remember the last time I've offered petting to a kid, but I really felt bad for them.
>
> When I talk to people about guide dogs or if I'm doing a presentation or something, I always stress that dogs are different and people are different, but asking is always okay. the answer might be no but politely asking and respecting the answer is good. It's interesting that I rarely have issues with kids. It's adults that have issues with self control.
>
> Julie
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> -----Original Message----- From: Darla Rogers
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:36 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>
> Thank you Raven and Michael; I believe, and several others have also
> states this practice, just not to allow it while we are out working.
> I don't owe the general public anything; if they want to pet a dog,
> the shelters are crying for volunteers to socialize their dogs; on the
> other hand, if it raises money for my school. <tongue firmly in cheek>
> Very Gratefully, Darla & Handsome Huck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Hingson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:40 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>
> Hi,
>
> I do not permit anyone to pet Africa while she is in harness. If
> people want to pet her and I have the time I will remove her harness
> and then allow petting. If I do not have time I politely explain that
> while the harness is on she is working and cannot be petted and that I
> do not have time to remove it now. Especially when people go along
> with my wishes I thank them very much. If people still insist on petting Africa I will get more stern.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla
> Rogers
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:22 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> The Handsome Huck is a people magnet and peo9ple are
> magnets for him; there is some petting--last time going through a
> revolving door--and I used to let him sit and be petted, but I don't
> believe this is in the best interest of our working relationship?
>
> Any ideas? Strategies? Explanations?
>
> Darla & Mister Socialite
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> Darla J. Rogers
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> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
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