[nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
Darla Rogers
djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 30 01:23:36 UTC 2014
Dear Rox'e,
Thank you so much for sharing a whole different perspective on
petting and setting up one's dog to respond to what you need and not what
you don't, and it surely helps to have cooperative coworkers who understand
and support what you are doing.
Darla & Happy Huck
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower Pack
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
I have never given a false name for my dogs. I would think they'd just hear
me cueing my dog using her real name and would know it anyway. Also, I'd
probably forget and give different names to the same person. lol.
Part of the work I do with my dogs is setting they up for this exact
situation. If someone calls Laveau's name and she does not know them well,
she will ignore it. If she knows them, she will let me know that someone we
know is calling her and I can choose to have her take me to them or just go
on our way.
Soleil is learning the same skills, and my friends, coworkers and
interpreters help me by setting up situations like are being described.
Since I can't hear, I can't police Soleil's interaction with the public like
a hearing person. I have to trust my dog to be able to work through
distractions like that.
Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:35 AM, "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> Have not changed my pet policy. I'll tell folks I know her name and
sometimes I'll take her harrness off so she can interact with others.
However, I usually ignore folks whom I don't know. I don't make up names
often although I have been known to.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raven Tolliver"
> <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>
>
>> Oh yes! It annoys me to no end when people ask what my dog's name is.
>> I just tell them his name is K, or the most comical one I've been
>> using is Celestial Seasonings. Got the idea from a woman whose
>> golden's name is Lipton. So cute. But I tell people Celestial
>> Seasonings, and no one is inclined to even call him. Probably 'cause
>> they know I'm bs-ing them. Most of my acquaintances and classmates
>> here on campus don't even know the Golden Guy's name.
>>
>>> On 4/29/14, minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I was very strict about not letting anyone pet Viva when I first
>>> came home with her, but I've relaxed my stance since then. Obviously
>>> I don't let anyone touch her when we're working, but if we're just
>>> sitting somewhere and someone asks to pet her, I will generally let
>>> them. I do tell them that if she gets too excited, then the meet and
>>> greet is over. it's also a great way for me to teach her
>>> self-control and obedience since I'll make her lay down and stay.
>>>
>>> Minh
>>>
>>>> On 4/29/14, The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> With Soleil, I have used petting as a practice time for self control.
>>>> She
>>>> loves people, and right at first, I knew that I was going to just
>>>> have to restrict all petting, or use the petting as an exercise.
>>>> Since I'm Deafblind, people tend to just pet because they are not
>>>> getting my attention with me by asking unless I'm with a hearing
>>>> person.
>>>> So if I have time to allow petting, I first tell her down. I tell
>>>> the person wanting to pet that she can only be pet in a down and
>>>> that if she gets up, they are to stop, I thank them for helping me
>>>> with her training, so they feel good. They pet her and then in mid
>>>> pet I ask her to come away and touch my hand and click and treat.
>>>> She is a lab, so would rather eat than lay and get petted. And her
>>>> getting up ends the session. If people pet without asking she will
>>>> turn to me.
>>>> My coworkers and friends also help in this exercise as well.
>>>> Because I'm Deafblind and a lot of my friends are deafblind, and I
>>>> work with deafblind children, she has to learn to be touched
>>>> without coming unhinged with joy. Deafblind people are a pretty
>>>> tactile lot and if a deafblind child has never seen a guide dog,
>>>> they can look at her-- with their
>>>> hands--
>>>> and learn. So far, Soleil's doing really well!
>>>>
>>>> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>>>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>>>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:41 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Generally I just say, "No, but thank you for asking." I smile and
>>>>> make it seem like them asking was a wonderful thing. Then I move
>>>>> on. Standing there will encourage a discussion or debate or
>>>>> whatever, moving on indicates that you don't want to discuss your
>>>>> no petting rule and it also reinforces that you need to get stuff
>>>>> done and don't have time for petting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do allow petting on occasion. If I do I let the person know
>>>>> it's up to Monty if he wants to be petted. I give Monty his
>>>>> release cue and let him approach if he wants. Usually he will
>>>>> give the person a perfunctory sniff and he's done. Every now and
>>>>> then he will back away from the person, which is kind of
>>>>> embarrassing, but they get it that he doesn't want to be petted.
>>>>> He's not very into meet and greet with people though, so this
>>>>> works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last week I was in the grocery store and there was a Mom with
>>>>> about four kids. The kids wanted to pet Monty and asked their
>>>>> Mom. Usually parents just say the dog is working and leave it
>>>>> alone, but this Mom went on a complete tirade. I thought the kids
>>>>> were perfectly well behaved in asking their Mom first if they
>>>>> could approach me to ask if they could pet, but Mom really lit
>>>>> into them. Then she was on to another topic and how horrible the
>>>>> kids were and on and on and on. So about four isles later I
>>>>> asked one of the kids if he would like to pet the dog. It made
>>>>> the kids day. I can't remember the last time I've offered petting
>>>>> to a kid, but I really felt bad for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I talk to people about guide dogs or if I'm doing a
>>>>> presentation or something, I always stress that dogs are different
>>>>> and people are different, but asking is always okay. the answer
>>>>> might be no but politely asking and respecting the answer is good.
>>>>> It's interesting that I rarely have issues with kids. It's adults
>>>>> that have issues with self control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darla Rogers
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:36 AM
>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Raven and Michael; I believe, and several others have
>>>>> also states this practice, just not to allow it while we are out
>>>>> working.
>>>>> I don't owe the general public anything; if they want to pet a
>>>>> dog, the shelters are crying for volunteers to socialize their
>>>>> dogs; on the other hand, if it raises money for my school. <tongue
>>>>> firmly in cheek> Very Gratefully, Darla & Handsome Huck
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>>>>> Hingson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:40 AM
>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not permit anyone to pet Africa while she is in harness. If
people
>>>>> want to pet her and I have the time I will remove her harness and then
>>>>> allow
>>>>> petting. If I do not have time I politely explain that while the
>>>>> harness
>>>>> is
>>>>> on she is working and cannot be petted and that I do not have time to
>>>>> remove
>>>>> it now. Especially when people go along with my wishes I thank them
>>>>> very
>>>>> much. If people still insist on petting Africa I will get more stern.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla
Rogers
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Handsome Huck is a people magnet and peo9ple are
>>>>> magnets
>>>>> for him; there is some petting--last time going through a revolving
>>>>> door--and I used to let him sit and be petted, but I don't believe
this
>>>>> is
>>>>> in the best interest of our working relationship?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas? Strategies? Explanations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Darla & Mister Socialite
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Darla J. Rogers
>>>>>
>>>>> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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