[nagdu] GDB Information was RE: Evaluation from Guiding Eyes

[L Gwizdak]

Hi Brandon,
GDB seems to train good dogs but I don't see them quite as good as Seeing 
Eye in respects to teaching people how to keep their dog out of foot traffic 
while the person is seated or standing in public places.  I know lots of GDB 
grads and their dogs are sprawled all over where they can get tripped over 
at our blind center.

I, too was denied service from GDB at TWO different times.  I was denied 
based on lies told to one guide dog school and actually passed on to GDB and 
they used that to deny me.  A long story I won't get into here.  I have seen 
them deny other people as well.

GDB is strange in who they choose to accept and deny in what I have 
personally seen in my 26 years here and around many GDB grads.  I do have 
friends who absolutely love them.  They have good dogs but I can't figure 
them out. (shrugs shoulders!)  If you want to know more, contact me offlist 
at leg1950 at cox.net so I don't look like guide dog school bashing even though 
I try to remain respectful.  Offlist is best to hear my stories frfom 
friends over the years in regards to this school.

I go to Seeing Eye and I am happy with them and just don't apply to the 
California schools anymore.

Lyn who is between dogs
"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like 
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon A. Olivares via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB Information was RE: Evaluation from Guiding Eyes


I’m also interested in hearing.

>From my perspective, I felt like they played games with me. They would act 
like everything was okay, then complain about something they never said was 
such a problem. The guy who interviewed me said he would recommend me for a 
guide dog, but then he allegedly gave a bad report. They were not at all 
up-front about what they wanted from me, and I was 99% sure I was getting 
in. It was nothing to do with mobility or anything like that, as he said I 
was a very good cane traveler.

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Peace,
Brandon

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On Aug 24, 2014, at 11:42 PM, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> 
wrote:

> Please be more specific on what you mean about GDB going down hill. As
> someone who will probably be considering them for a successor dog in a few
> years, I like to know the details.
>
> Nicole and Lexia
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chantel Cuddemi
> via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 8:08 PM
> To: 'Brandon A. Olivares'; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Evaluation from Guiding Eyes
>
> GDB's going downhill.. I am sorry they were dishonest with you...
>
> Good luck...
>
> Chantel.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon A.
> Olivares via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 11:03 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Evaluation from Guiding Eyes
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an evaluation from Guiding Eyes on Wednesday. The GDB application
> didn't work out for various reasons I don't want to get into, so I'm
> applying to Guiding Eyes.
>
> Is there anything I should know? I don't know if there are differences
> between the requirements of Guiding Eyes vs. GDB. I didn't like GDB 
> because
> they weren't up-front with us with everything (again long story).
>
> Also I need recommendations for what to do with a litter box. We have a
> small house so our options are limited.
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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