[nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at BradleyInternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
Nicole Torcolini
ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Tue Dec 2 05:17:58 UTC 2014
Thank you Valery; you said most of what I was thinking. Two things to add,
though.
There is nothing wrong with the ACAA. As Valery stated, someone
might an emotional support animal while flying. The way to solve the problem
is education, and, JMHO, there was not any educating to be done in this
case. Why is it that we say that the law should not be changed and education
is the answer when it is concerning service animals, but, whenever emotional
support animals come into the picture, we immediately say that the law
should be changed. It was a pig. So what? JMHO, this article should never
have been written. The same thing could have happened to someone with a
service dog. If an animal is out of control, the handler has to remove it.
The airline/airport personnel did not do anything wrong.
Also, it is very judgmental and rude to assume that you know what
people need. Sometimes, an animal can do something that medicine cannot.
Even if the medicine can do what an animal would do, sometimes, having an
animal makes it where the person does not need the medicine, which, JMHO, is
better for several reasons.
Nicole
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Valerie Gibson
via nagdu
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:17 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at
BradleyInternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
Okay here's my thoughts.
This may come aross as very rude at first so bear with me.
First, I find it incredibly rude for someone to say, "Yeah, she's doing this
for attention". You don't kow this lady. You don't know what support she
may need. You don't know why she needs a pig. Maybe she's alergic to dogs.
Maybe she lives on a farm. Maybe she just likes pigs.
Pigs are in the top 3 smartest animals in the world. Maybe she figured a
pig would be better than a dog in this regard.
This is the second time I'e heard snips like, "this person is doing X for
attention", and it gets old quick.
That being said, I don't find it wrong to be like, "why would you do this if
not for attention?" becasue that's still a question-something that can
probably be explained, or at least debated.
Okay, that's al my ranting. Here's my oppinion on the matter at hand.
I do think it's odd that a pig would b e chosen to be an emotional support
animal, but I can see the appeal, not for the attention aspect but because
pigs are so smart. I don't know much about pigs to say that they would make
great ESA's but I won't say, "no a pig could never be used".
ESA's in my opinion are alreay treading a grey area in regards to where they
can go, and I don't think it would be wrong for an air flight personel to
say, "no you can't take the pig". However, since flying is a very real fear
for some people, I can see why someone might want an ESA on the flight.
What we should really be focusing on is that the pig was disruptive. Just
with that alone, I'd highly doubt it was a service animal or at least one
that was not kept up on training.
Julie you bring up a good point as to why a person with a mental problem
would chose a pig as an ESA, and due to the disruptive nature of the pig, it
might not have been an ESA at all, but there's so much the article leaves
out that it's hard for any of us to really make a judgement call on this.
Having a pig as an ESA isn't what gives us a bad name in regards to service
animals; it's that the pig was disruptive and the lady was claiming it was a
service animal.
Okay, i could probably say more, but I need to work on my preps for finals.
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Joe via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I don't know. I think a monkey would be kind of neat. LOL Seriously
though. I think people often run well past the definition of what is
considered an emotional support animal. They make it that much more
difficult for people who seriously need a standard service animal. I'm kind
of the opinion, and I get I'll be the minority here, that if you need an
animal around you to keep you on the rails, you probably need more
medication for everyone's general safety more than you need a nuisance
animal that makes it harder for people with seeing, hearing and seizure
disabilities to access public establishments.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
> <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Brett Sample via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:36 AM
> To: Julie J.; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley
> InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
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> I thought that too Julie? Some people won't like what I have to say, but,
here goes. When people use emotional support animals, such as a pig or
monkey, other people think of it as a "Service" animal and because of that
it can cause problems for everyone. I think it might be time to update the
ACAA and FHA to reflect the ADA.
>
>
> Brett
>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Okay folks, it's stupid question time...
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>> If a person has a mental or emotional condition so serious that an
emotional support animal is necessary, why then would the person choose a
pig? She has to know that a pig is going to cause people to ask a lot of
questions and create drama where ever she goes.
>>
>> Julie
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Ginger Kutsch via nagdu
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:21 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley
>> InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
>>
>> Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley International Airport,
>> only to learn it couldn't fly
>>
>> By Dwight B. Shepard | dshepard at repub.com
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>> November 28, 2014
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>> Source:
>> http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/passenger_with_pig_boa
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>> ds_fli
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>> You've heard the expression, "when pigs fly" haven't you?
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>> It's is an adynaton, or, a figure of speech, if you will, so
>> hyperbolic that it describes an impossibility. It's used for
>> humorously, when someone wants to make fun of over-ambition.
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>> But a passenger at Bradley International Airport, in Windsor Locks,
>> Connecticut, wasn't kidding when she boarded a US Airways flight with
>> a pig in tow.
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>> Jonathan Skolnik, a professor at the University of Massachusetts at
>> Amherst told ABC News he thought the woman with the pig was carrying
>> a duffel bag when she got on the plane.
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>> Skolnick, a passenger on the plane, became quite concerned when the
>> woman, and her pig, headed straight for the empty seat next to him.
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>> "But it turns out it wasn't a duffel bag. We could smell it and it
>> was a pig on a leash," he told ABC. "She tethered it to the arm rest
>> next to me and started to deal with her stuff, but the pig was walking
back and forth."
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>> "I was terrified, because I was thinking I'm gonna be on the plane
>> with the pig," Snolnik added, saying he guesses the pig weighed
>> between 50 and 70 pounds.
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>> Another passenger on the flight commented on ABC's website, "This was
>> the most surreal flying experience of my life. How are animals of
>> this size allowed in a passenger compartment of an airplane? This
>> should not be permitted."
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>> According to Britain's Daily Mail newspaper, the woman had the pig as
>> an emotional support animal, but was asked to leave the plane after
>> it became disruptive.
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>> The Department of Transportation has certain guidelines concerning
>> animals, including pigs, monkeys and miniature horses, that can be
>> taken on flights if they are determined to be needed as emotional
>> support for a person. TSA officials are supposed to determine whether
>> the animal is permitted on the plane by running through a list of
guidelines, the newsaper reported.
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>> "Pigs are favored service animals for people allergic to dogs," the
>> Daily Mail wrote. "Guidelines suggest they are intelligent companions
>> and attuned to dangerous situations."
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>> According to a 2012 CNCNews.com report, airlines must let passengers
>> fly with pigs if they are for such emotional support. The department
>> published a manual in July of that year designed to "help carriers
>> and indirect carriers and their employees/contractors that provide
>> services or facilities to passengers with disabilities, assist those
passengers in accordance with"
>> the Air Carrier Access Act.
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>> Here is a scenario described in the manual.
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>> "A passenger arrives at the gate accompanied by a pot-bellied pig.
>> She claims that the pot-bellied pig is her service animal. What should
you do?"
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>> "Generally, you must permit a passenger with a disability to be
>> accompanied by a service animal," reads the manual. "However, if you
>> have a reasonable basis for questioning whether the animal is a
>> service animal, you may ask for some verification."
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>> The manual instructs airline carriers and their employees to begin by
>> asking questions about the animal's training and what service it
>> performs for the individual.
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>> "If you are not satisfied with the credibility of the answers to
>> these questions or if the service animal is an emotional support or
>> psychiatric service animal, you may request further verification," the
guidebook states.
>> "You should also call a CRO [Complaints Resolution Official] if there
>> is any further doubt as to whether the pot-bellied pig is the
>> passenger's service animal."
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>> If the answers are satisfactory, pigs, which can weigh as much as 300
>> pounds, must be accepted aboard the plane.
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>> "Finally, if you determine that the pot-bellied pig is a service
>> animal, you must permit the service animal to accompany the passenger
>> to her seat provided the animal does not obstruct the aisle or
>> present any safety issues and the animal is behaving appropriately in
>> a public setting," the manual states.
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>> So, I guess, some pigs can fly.
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