[nagdu] Is Boycotting the Answer? was Discrimination

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Tue Dec 2 15:58:08 UTC 2014


Or gather together your blind comrades and all go together, dogs in hand.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Larry D Keeler'" <lkeeler at comcast.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List, the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:50 AM
Subject: [nagdu] Is Boycotting the Answer? was Discrimination


> Larry,
>
> I am of the opinion that boycotting a place because they
> discriminate against us only permits the discrimination to occur. Where
> would African Americans be today if Rosa Parks allowed Mr. Blake and the
> City of Montgomery to discriminate against her? Where would they be if the
> Greensboro 4 complied with the discriminatory practices of Woolworth's and
> left the lunch counter? If you like their chicken, go back and demand to 
> be
> treated equitably! If you don't want to do it, give me the name and 
> address
> of the place and the next time I visit my relatives in Michigan I'll take 
> a
> road trip for chicken!
>
> Fraternally yours,
>
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc.
> National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> (888) 624-3841 (Hotline)
> President at nagdu.org
> http://www.nagdu.org
>
> High expectations create unlimited potential for the blind!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D Keeler
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 9:37 AM
> To: Cindy Ray; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
>
> I had a similar incident several years ago at a Korean owned chicken 
> place.
> I used to go there all of the time but, they got after me when I walked in
> with Holly. I got my order from outside and never went back. What a shame!
> They had really good chicken!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Dan Weiner'" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
>
>
>> Well, this was what I had thought was the case, that it went away. In
>> her mind to offer us a place in an unused, isolated section was
>> offering us service.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 10:19 PM
>> To: 'Tami Jarvis'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>> Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
>>
>> You know I've gotten a lot of people asking for my id lately or my
>> papers like you.
>> I explain the matter and it goes away or has so far but I suppose this
>> is a trend.
>> It's usually a restaurant and as I walk in--smile.
>>
>> Dan W.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:46 PM
>> To: Cindy Ray; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
>> Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Discrimination
>>
>> Cindy,
>>
>> Urgh! Glad you're contacting Denny's. The one access issue I had here
>> was at Denny's, when the hostess asked to see my papers. Huh? I told
>> her the law, she checked with her manager who confirmed it, and that
>> was that. I also spoke to the manager once we were seated to ensure
>> their training was in order. It was annoying and disruptive, and we
>> ended up with a very nice woman we'd never met before sitting at our
>> table to discuss the matter and ask me about someone else I don't know
>> and his dog that I don't know anything about. That seems to happen
>> also with access challenges; suddenly my privacy is out the window,
>> anyone can ask me anything! Urgh!
>>
>> Glad the rest of your holiday was good!
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 11/30/2014 02:53 PM, Cindy Ray via nagdu wrote:
>>> I hope all had a great Thanksgiving. I did until .
>>>
>>> In the afternoon we went to find dessert. We were in Katy, TX, and we
>>> tried House of Pies. They were out of any pies we would want, so we
>>> went to Dennys. The hostess asked to see my ID for the dog. I told
>>> her I wasn't required to show her one. Also, I didn't have it with
>>> me. She said, "Oh, OK." So I thought Fisher and I were following, but
>>> Fisher had taken his own course. Meanwhile, my daughter, who didn't
>>> realize she had lost us, followed the hostess into a dark, not so
>>> recently used section. She asked why since there were available
>>> families. The hostess said that she didn't want the dog to frighten
>>> any of her customers. Then she (my daughter) noted that I was
>>> missing. I was standing by a table of people who seemed to be a
>>> Muslim family. They had not interacted with me in any way. We left. I
>>> don't think it was our best course of action; my daughter's children
>>> were there, and I really didn't want to make a big deal scene so
>>> much, but I felt I did the service dog users a disservice. I expect
>>> to contact their corporate concerning it. Pictures would have been an
>>> excellent idea. My
>> daughter asked if this was Alaama in the 1960s.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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