[nagdu] Breeds for successor

Tue Dec 2 16:59:43 UTC 2014

Jody, our grand pup is a white shepherd. He is wonderful loving calm totally loyal and obedient. 

Congratulations to you and owner training walker. Great to catch up with you again, smile.

b.butterfly at comcast.net

Warmly,

Becky and Jake 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jody Ianuzzi via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:06 AM
To: Tracy Carcione; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Breeds for successor

My favorite breed is the American white shepherd. The white shepherd was part of the original breeding stock of the German Shepherd dog.  In the 1930s The whites were rejected by the breed organization.  As a result the white shepherd went a different route and never became guard or police dogs they remained true to the original breed requirements of sound temperament and body   They are much more mellow then a standard GSD and they don't have any of the health problems bread into modern GSD's. 

My white shepherd Walker is the sweetest and the smartest dog I have ever known.  He comes from one of the most exceptional caring breeders I have ever met

JODY 🐺

"Life begins where your comfort zone ends."

> On Dec 2, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> If I were thinking of training my own guide, I think I'd take a look at Airedales.  They're a nice size.  They have an all-weather coat.  They have terrier toughness, which could make them excellent city dogs, though it would add a challenge to training.  They've been successful in police and military work.  I don't know if this indicates aggressiveness--they are terriers--or a willingness and ability to do hard work.  Anyway, I think they'd be an interesting breed as guides.
> Tracy
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raven Tolliver via nagdu" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Valerie Gibson" <valandkayla at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Breeds for successor
> 
> 
>> Everything Valerie said is true.
>> Boxers are not easy to train, and are not for everyone. They are high 
>> energy, playful, and very stubborn. Mind you, I've only worked with 
>> boxers in the shelter setting, and I trained my sister's boxer, so 
>> nothing in the ways of guide work. But Boxers can be more stubborn 
>> and distracted than black labs. Anyone handling a boxer must be firm, 
>> consistent, and extremely patient. It takes more patience to work 
>> with any guide dog than it does many pets, but boxers will require 
>> even more. It's like teaching the class clown to become the 
>> overachieving teacher's pet.
>> 
>>> On 11/30/14, Valerie Gibson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> If you're going to use a boxer, prepare to have a puppy for about 8 
>>> to 10 years. lol  I'd recommend an active lifestyle, and preferably 
>>> one where the boxer can go everywhere with you, and I do mean, 
>>> EVERYWHERE.  I know that's a given with a guide dog, but boxers seem 
>>> to become depresed if they're not with their family all the time.  I 
>>> had a boxer as a pet once, and she jumped out of a second story window to catch a car that was taking me to school.
>>> Boxers are the clowns of the doggy world, so keep that in mind.
>>> They're great dogs, and eventually, if i have a family, I'd love to 
>>> own another boxer.  Not sure I'd want one as a guide dog though.  To 
>>> me it sems like trying to train the class clown to behave.  But 
>>> that's just me. :)
>>>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:53 PM, Aaron Cannon via nagdu 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What do folks think of using the Boxer?
>>>> 
>>>> Aaron
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/29/14, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Julie J suggested as possibilities the Chesapeake or flat-coat retriever.
>>>>> I
>>>>> 
>>>>> have heard the Chessies are quite large, and strongly 
>>>>> work-oriented, though
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've never met one.  I've heard the flat-coats are a fairly mellow bunch.
>>>>> TSE tried a couple, at some point.
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Karyn & Thane via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: "Nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 4:07 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Breeds for successor
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm trying to begin my thought process towards choosing a breed 
>>>>>> for my successor to Thane. Before I get any questions asked about 
>>>>>> him (ie- is he
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK?, what will happen to him? Etc) Rest assured, Thane is fine. 
>>>>>> He isn't in immediate need of retirement, but it takes me two to 
>>>>>> three years to train.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He has had health problems (thankyou Lyme and its lifelong 
>>>>>> complications due to late diagnosis) so I just don't want to 
>>>>>> tempt fate and lose him and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> be left scrambling to find and train a dog while also trying to 
>>>>>> accommodate my multiple disabilities (DB, incomplete quad) in the 
>>>>>> interim.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I owner train my dogs for ALL of my disabilities. Its big paws to 
>>>>>> fill for
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Though Thane and I have been a team for a little over 6 years, he 
>>>>>> has always been a bit on the small side at 21 inches tall.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am looking for a more resilient dog than my BC that sheds with 
>>>>>> a minimum
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> height of 2 feet at withers. I don't want to spend all day 
>>>>>> grooming, but can handle coats such ad golden retriever, rough 
>>>>>> coat Border Collie. I do
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> all my own bathing, rinsing from wet muddy NW Oregon weather, 
>>>>>> grooming, nail trims, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Though labs make good guides, lets face it many can be shrimps so 
>>>>>> unless I
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> found an awesome adult male lab where I can be sure of height, 
>>>>>> they wont fit the bill.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been reading some of the recent posts regarding GSDs as well 
>>>>>> as some
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> of Julies posts about Jetta's issues with the cold.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My first dog was Border Collie GSD.  Thane is Border Collie. Some 
>>>>>> day I want a GSD, but right now I really want a healthy dog also.  
>>>>>> After reading
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> about health problems others on the list have experienced with 
>>>>>> GSDs, I am
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> leery of them right now. I prefer male, but most of that is 
>>>>>> experience and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> size based.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do live in a small apartment, but have access to an awesome dog 
>>>>>> park and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> trail system once trained for fixed route transit, a few other 
>>>>>> trail systems not too far from home and my folks yard in summer time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now that I am healthier and more mobile, Thane and I have been 
>>>>>> visiting the great dog park trail system where I am able to see 
>>>>>> size and temperament in some other breeds that I may not be accustomed to.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know many of you have been working dogs much longer than me, so 
>>>>>> thought
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would see what some of you think about breeds that might be 
>>>>>> tall enough
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> for what I am looking for. From there I can do more research and 
>>>>>> narrow down my options. I will also be communicating with hearing 
>>>>>> and service dog
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> lists so don't worry if you can't think of a good option for me, 
>>>>>> but if you can, AWESOME!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Karyn and Thane
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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