[nagdu] trouble with relieving

[Vivianna]

Unfortunately, pilot does not teach you how to relieve the dog at all.  they just say, here you go, do it.
John, ask if you can relieve her in a different area so that you can feel her.  you can’t do that with those bars they have in the way.  also, ask them to show you how to pick up after your dog.  they don’t do that either.
for those who are reading, school recommendation lists are a good thing.  don’t jump all over me about pilot as, my dog is from there.  i would, however, not recommend them as a school for any first time dog handler.  many many things are not taught.let us know if they show you what to do john.  i am completely with you in being embarrassed.  and, frankly, your dog should not be relieving in harness on a regular basis.  yes, i understand an accident but, that does not sound like what you are dealing with.
if they refuse to help you further, then, make sure you give her 10 minutes to do her business.  keep her moving the whole time, don’t just let her stand there.  and, since you are having a problem, i’d be relieving her more frequently as well.  you don’t want her to get the idea that it’s OK to relieve in harness.this can be a very hard thing to break.
JMHO

Vivianna

On Dec 10, 2014, at 6:56 PM, john sanders via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> hi all, I did not get tot this. I can talk with my instructor tomorrow about it.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 15:57, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi, John,
>> You can feel your dog's back while she is relieving herself.  For example, Jenny will squat down to pee with a slight arch in her back; if she is pooing, her back is completely arched at a 90-degree angle (as much as it can).  If your dog does not like to be touched while relieving, you can hear if she is sniffing, scavenging, or doing her business.  Also, as yuou get to know your dog, you will learn her unique signals that she either has to relieve or that she is relieving.
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>> Is it possible to discuss this with an instructor who can tell you what your dog is doing?  That way you can know what it feels like in the leash when she is relieving, sniffing, etc.  I'm a bit surprised they didn't show you this, though...
>> 
>> Daryl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: john sanders via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>> Cc: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:45:16 -0700 (MST)
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] trouble with relieving
>> 
>> hi all, when I'm asking is how do I go about making sure that my dog is relieved before going on walks? The dog has had several accidents on walks. And I have been embarrassed.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 11:35, Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi John, not quite sure what you're asking here.  I would definitely be talking to your instructor about relieving issues.    Peace,    Debby and Neena
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