[nagdu] Training Programs' Documentation

Sun Feb 2 20:24:11 UTC 2014

Darla,
	I suppose some programs could retaliate against a consumer who
shared their paperwork; however, whose paperwork is it anyway? Do training
programs instruct their consumers to not share their agreements with others?
If so, what are they hiding. The bottom line is that we will redact any
identifying information, so it would be very difficult for a training
program to positively identify who shared the information.

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 7:03 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Training Programs' Documentation

Dear Marion,

	Would that put a student in jeopardy if a school believed he/she
shared documents; I certainly don't understand--no matter what they say--why
schools won't share this, and at the same time, make candidate
qualifications very clear to students.  Some seem rather Draconian to me, so
I chose another school.
Darla & handsome Huck

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of National
Association of Guide Dog Users
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:29 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: [nagdu] Training Programs' Documentation

Sherry,
	The information I offer is based upon an actual review of the
available documents. From what I have been able to ascertain, the following
programs transfer ownership upon completion of training:

Guide Dogs of America
Guide Dog Foundation
Southeastern Guide Dogs
The Seeing Eye

I have heard that Pilot Dogs also transfers ownership upon completion of
training; however, we have not been able to objectively verify this
information. We have requested the pertinent agreements from each of the
training programs and they have not been forthcoming with this information.
To date, the following programs have voluntarily shared their agreements
with us:

Guide Dogs of America
Guide Dogs for the Blind
Guide Dog Foundation
The Seeing Eye

All other programs have ignored our request for these documents. Of those
who have not voluntarily provided us this information, Only Southeastern
responded with a refusal, stating their documents were proprietary, while
asserting they provide consumers the ability to review their agreements in
advance of engaging in training.

Consumers have shared the documents of the following training programs:

Fidelco Guide Dogs
Leader Dogs for the blind
Southeastern Guide Dogs

If anyone would be willing to share the documents of those training programs
for which we do not have information and which are unwilling to provide us
such documentation, all identifying information will be redacted from the
agreements and your identities kep anonymous and confidential.

With warm regards,

Marion Gwizdala, President
National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc.
National Federation of the Blind
(813) 626-2789 (Office)
888-NAGDU411 (Hotline
President at nagdu.org
www.nagdu.org

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:01 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nagdu] speaking of ownership

Hi everyone,

I'm currently looking at schools. Considering retiring my current guide, and
since I need a kind of special dog, I thought I'd start working on applying
now. One of the things on my list of reasons for choosing a particular
school next time is ownership at the time of graduation. What other schools
beside TSE give ownership right away?

Sherry

So hold this moment fast,
And live and love as hard as you know how, And make this moment last,
Because the best of times is now.
--La cage aux Folles

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