[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 107, Issue 2 Guide Dog Schools
Donna Elliott
donnatelliott at gmail.com
Mon Feb 3 18:18:59 UTC 2014
Hi Rachel, my name is Donna Elliott. I am currently working my third guide dog, all from Guiding Eyes. I can not say enough wonderful things about Guiding Eyes, training, staff and follow up. There is a twenty four hour line for calls and an emergency number. Whether you want to discuss a training issue, simply have a question or want to speak to the veterinary hospital, there are people to answer your questions. Class size has been decreased in 2014 as they have gone to a three week schedule for classes after several trial classes last year. The structure is not as formal as TSE and graduates generally feel apart of the GEB family. I really like how in the second week, you meet one on one with your trainer to discuss areas that you need to work on and challenges you may meet at home. For example, I live down the street from an elementary school and wanted to be sure my guide was not child distracted. I went to a Toys R Us and a residential area after school got out to discover my dogs reactions. Someone else knew they had to cross train tracks and were brought to an area to practice on the tracks.
As far as relieving the guide dog, they are taught to relieve on command. I have lived in several apartments and have not had any problems.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have either here on the list or you can email me off list.
Donna & Aaron
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> 1. Re: Training Programs' Documentation
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> 2. Re: Picking up in the Snow? (Lori Dent)
> 3. guide dog schools (Rachel Becker)
> 4. relieving (Rachel Becker)
> 5. Re: relieving (sheila)
> 6. Re: guide dog schools (Julie McGinnity)
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> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 15:24:11 -0500
> From: "National Association of Guide Dog Users" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Training Programs' Documentation
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> Darla,
> I suppose some programs could retaliate against a consumer who
> shared their paperwork; however, whose paperwork is it anyway? Do training
> programs instruct their consumers to not share their agreements with others?
> If so, what are they hiding. The bottom line is that we will redact any
> identifying information, so it would be very difficult for a training
> program to positively identify who shared the information.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 7:03 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Training Programs' Documentation
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> Dear Marion,
>
> Would that put a student in jeopardy if a school believed he/she
> shared documents; I certainly don't understand--no matter what they say--why
> schools won't share this, and at the same time, make candidate
> qualifications very clear to students. Some seem rather Draconian to me, so
> I chose another school.
> Darla & handsome Huck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of National
> Association of Guide Dog Users
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:29 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: [nagdu] Training Programs' Documentation
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> Sherry,
> The information I offer is based upon an actual review of the
> available documents. From what I have been able to ascertain, the following
> programs transfer ownership upon completion of training:
>
> Guide Dogs of America
> Guide Dog Foundation
> Southeastern Guide Dogs
> The Seeing Eye
>
> I have heard that Pilot Dogs also transfers ownership upon completion of
> training; however, we have not been able to objectively verify this
> information. We have requested the pertinent agreements from each of the
> training programs and they have not been forthcoming with this information.
> To date, the following programs have voluntarily shared their agreements
> with us:
>
> Guide Dogs of America
> Guide Dogs for the Blind
> Guide Dog Foundation
> The Seeing Eye
>
> All other programs have ignored our request for these documents. Of those
> who have not voluntarily provided us this information, Only Southeastern
> responded with a refusal, stating their documents were proprietary, while
> asserting they provide consumers the ability to review their agreements in
> advance of engaging in training.
>
> Consumers have shared the documents of the following training programs:
>
> Fidelco Guide Dogs
> Leader Dogs for the blind
> Southeastern Guide Dogs
>
> If anyone would be willing to share the documents of those training programs
> for which we do not have information and which are unwilling to provide us
> such documentation, all identifying information will be redacted from the
> agreements and your identities kep anonymous and confidential.
>
> With warm regards,
>
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc.
> National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789 (Office)
> 888-NAGDU411 (Hotline
> President at nagdu.org
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherry Gomes
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:01 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] speaking of ownership
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm currently looking at schools. Considering retiring my current guide, and
> since I need a kind of special dog, I thought I'd start working on applying
> now. One of the things on my list of reasons for choosing a particular
> school next time is ownership at the time of graduation. What other schools
> beside TSE give ownership right away?
>
> Sherry
>
>
> So hold this moment fast,
> And live and love as hard as you know how, And make this moment last,
> Because the best of times is now.
> --La cage aux Folles
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> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:14:44 -0500
> From: Lori Dent <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Picking up in the Snow?
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> Hi Lizzy,
>
> I haven't found it to difficult to pick up poop in the snow. I usually end
> up picking up snow along with the poop. LOL. Which doesn't bother me at
> all. And there's been a time or two where Gipp has went and even with me
> standing right behind him when he' going and when he's done I bend over to
> pick it up and can't find it. So I usually have to do a hand sweep around
> the area where he went and after a few seconds or so I have found it and
> picked it up. Take care.
>
> Lori and theGipper
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> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:47:16 -0500
> From: "Rachel Becker" <Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools
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> Hi. My name is Rachel Becker. I grew up in the NFB of Maryland and am a
> student at Princeton Theological Seminary in New Jersey. I have never used a
> guide dog but would like to get my first guide, perhaps as soon as this
> summer. I'm leaning towards Guiding Eyes. I'd like to hear about people's
> experiences with their schools, both in class and after graduation, from
> Guiding Eyes as well as other schools.
>
> Rachel
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> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:49:21 -0500
> From: "Rachel Becker" <Rachel at BeckerConsultants.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] relieving
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> Hi. It's Rachel again. I have never had a guide dog or even a pet, so I have
> lots of questions about caring for dogs. I'm curious about the relieving
> belt or other tools or methods you use to deal with relieving your dog.
>
> Rachel
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> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 21:55:03 -0700
> From: sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net>
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] relieving
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> hi, my name is sheila and I'm from great falls montana. I'm working my
> second guide dog a retriever a golden and I do use the relieving belt.
> We live in an apartment complex and it saves a lot of hassles about
> being blamed for not picking up after our dogs.
>> On 2/2/2014 9:49 PM, Rachel Becker wrote:
>> Hi. It's Rachel again. I have never had a guide dog or even a pet, so I have
>> lots of questions about caring for dogs. I'm curious about the relieving
>> belt or other tools or methods you use to deal with relieving your dog.
>>
>> Rachel
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 00:35:57 -0600
> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Hi Rachel,
>
> Welcome to the list! My name is Julie, and I am currently between
> dogs, but I got my first dog from Guiding Eyes and plan to return this
> summer for my next dog. I have had nothing but good experiences with
> the trainers, their dogs, and the staff at Guiding Eyes. Their
> follow-up services are excellent, and the training is some of the
> best.
>
> There are other excellent schools out there, but I choose GEB because
> the classes are small, and their staff was always kind to me while
> treating me like an adult. This was important to me, especially at
> the time I got my first dog because I was a teenager. I am sure
> others on this list can tell you about other schools, but if you have
> any questions about Guiding Eyes or my experiences(granted, my class
> experience is 5 and a half years old now), feel free to email me off
> list.
>
>
>
>> On 2/2/14, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
>> Hi. My name is Rachel Becker. I grew up in the NFB of Maryland and am a
>> student at Princeton Theological Seminary in New Jersey. I have never used
>> a
>> guide dog but would like to get my first guide, perhaps as soon as this
>> summer. I'm leaning towards Guiding Eyes. I'd like to hear about people's
>> experiences with their schools, both in class and after graduation, from
>> Guiding Eyes as well as other schools.
>>
>> Rachel
>>
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> --
> Julie McG
> National Association of Guide dog Users board member, National
> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
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