[nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question

Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 17 14:34:37 UTC 2014 

Dallas likes  to find the best path, in his mind at least. For example, he doesn't really like to jump over snow banks in curb cuts. So his solution  is to attempt to go around the snow drift, often times taking me the completely wwrrong direction. 
I often times have problems with people telling my dog where to go. No matter how much I ask them not to, they don't listen to me and don't understand that Dallas's job is to navigate me around things. One example is that I was walking toward a car, inside which were people who were going to give me a ride. The driver literally said "Dallas, this way." I asked her to not do that, but she didn't listen and proceeded to tell me to stop before I ran into the car. 
Just my experiences here in SW Ohio.
Aleeha and Dallas, who is currently licking his lips after a wonderful breakfast 

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> On Feb 17, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> LOL Jenny, my little black lab, will sometimes in the cold (and her zeal to get out of it), find every... single... door... especially if I am not as familiar with an area and am trying to get my bearings. LOL
> 
> Daryl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:03:06 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
> 
> Exactly! For example yesterday. Holly and I were out in the snow and cold. 
> She found a clear path but it turned out it wasn't going where I needed to 
> go. I had to stop, listen and find the right way. It wasn't as clear but we 
> managed because I listened and refocused on the busy street I line up with. 
> Holly was taking the safest path but not the right one.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
> 
> 
>> Rebecca,
>> 
>> I think that what Barb meant is that the people were expecting the
>> dog to make the decisions on where to go. There is a difference in having
>> your dog wait while you work with your GPS to figure out where you are 
>> going
>> and just expecting your dog to magically know the way.
>> 
>> Nicole and Lexia
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:24 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>> 
>> One word for you, Barb, and that is GPS.
>> It's everywhere now and most of its users are sighted.
>> I say this only because when someone who can see pauses to figure out 
>> where
>> they are, and what they need to do next, it's regarded as normal. Yet, you
>> don't seem willing to give these men the same latitude. Why is that?
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> barbandzoe at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:10 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>> 
>> HI everyone, I hope you and your dogs are staying warm.
>> 
>> I have not gotten my dog yet, and I am also looking at Fidelco.  but the
>> reason I am sending this is because, everyone talks about ownership, and 
>> Yes
>> I do think it is nice to have the ownership, but I also see why some 
>> schools
>> don't let you just take the dog and run.  I think with all schools there
>> should be a time of about a year, on your first dog, before you have
>> ownership, because this way the school can make sure you know how to 
>> handle
>> a dog, both as a guide and as a pet.
>> 
>> I say this because I have been watching a couple of guys in my city who 
>> have
>> guide dogs, and they don't seem to know how to travel by themselves, and
>> then they have to tell this poor confused dog which way to go.  They get 
>> off
>> the bus and stand there just trying to decide if they should go left, 
>> right
>> or forward.  the dog is just standing looking around and then at his 
>> person
>> waiting to go. How I know that the people on this list are probably some 
>> of
>> the better dog users, because to me you wouldn't be on a list like this if
>> you didn't care about your dog and helping other with theirs.   But I see
>> this and I think to myself, why did they give these guys a dog, because to
>> me he looks like he needs a bit more O&M training before he can be
>> responsible for this dog. I say this because when I talk to the schools,
>> they tell me time and time again, that I need to walk and work these dogs
>> almost every day to keep their skills sharp, No problem.  So I think, does
>> the school know how the guy travels and is this still OK.  I have also 
>> seen
>> some very good dog users and the dogs seem so much happier and confident 
>> in
>> what they are doing.
>> 
>> As I look at the  things people say and have said about their best and not
>> so best guide dog school, It looks to me that you find a school with the
>> kind of dog you want and the kind of training you can do, plus if you want
>> to travel a long way from home or stay nearby.
>> I chose Fidelco because I wanted a GSD, and if I were to take four weeks 
>> off
>> work, I wouldn't have job to come home to. I think most of the schools are
>> very good, we mostly near about them when things go wrong.  there are a 
>> lot
>> of people out there that have guide dogs from all the schools and are very
>> happy in their choice.  so I think you need to look at what they offer and
>> see which one feels right for you.
>> 
>> Barb
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "National Association of Guide Dog Users" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:09:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>> 
>> Matt,
>>       Please read my article in the April 2011 Braille Monitor concerning
>> Fidelco and my blog post at
>> 
>> Harnessup.wordpress.org
>> 
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew 
>> Dierckens
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>> 
>> Hello everyone.
>> I thought I'd come over here and introduce myself, and I have a bit of an
>> inquiry.
>> My name is Matt, and I am from Ontario Canada. I am hoping to get a guide
>> dog sometime in the future, my goal is to have one by the end of this 
>> year.
>> I've done extended research and spoken to various schools.
>> I came across this school called Fidelco. If there's anyone on this list 
>> who
>> have had experiences, good or bad with Fidelco, I'd like to hear about 
>> them.
>> 
>> Thank you. :)
>> 
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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