[nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early

Thu Feb 27 18:11:14 UTC 2014

Hi Sheila.
It would really bug me if a trainer did something that was affecting my 
dog's work, and didn't tell me he was going to do it.  It feels 
disrespectful.
I expect you were annoyed, too.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sheila" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early

> It never occurred to me that Tres would go that crazy. My first dog tried 
> to refuse to walk. We were in training and I didn't know the trainer had 
> put a haltee or gentle leader on his I don't know which one it was. I got 
> upset because I didn't know what was wrong with my dog. The trainer told 
> me that if he told people he was using the device people would refuse to 
> work the dog on the  particular day. If I had known what was happening 
> with my dog my reaction would have been completely different. This was 
> with my first dog drake not Tres.
> On 2/27/2014 9:34 AM, Daryl Marie wrote:
>> Oh wow!
>>
>> Jenny doesn't like the Halti that much, but she won't complain about it 
>> unless we get home and I haven't taken it off yet. LOL  She won't fight 
>> me, but occasionally will do the face-against-leg thing.
>>
>> Daryl
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 09:30:20 -0700 (MST)
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early
>>
>> Tres literally hates gentle leaders he tried to jump over the back of a
>> chair and also my head as well as my son's head to get away. We finally
>> got it on but he managed to get his nose out of it. He won't even look
>> at one
>> On 2/26/2014 7:03 PM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
>>> I wish that GDB did this. They issue a gentle leader, or at least they 
>>> did
>>> in 2007. We were required to use it once. I think that I did something 
>>> that
>>> made Lexia really not like it; but I honestly  don't know what I did. I
>>> think that she might have liked a halty better. I don't like the way 
>>> that
>>> the gentle leader pulls tight around the dog's nose and does not loosen.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven 
>>> Tolliver
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:56 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early
>>>
>>> Hi Daryl,
>>> I'm glad the Halti is working for you! Many people are very anti head
>>> collar. It's good to see you tried it and are having success.
>>> Just remember that to work on scavenging and sniffing, it's important to
>>> practice at home with things like "leave it" and teaching your dog how 
>>> to
>>> react to, or ignore, food on the floor or ground without the Halti on. 
>>> The
>>> leg work is certainly worth it. I have taught extremely nosy beagles, 
>>> black
>>> labs, and pitbulls to ignore food via self restraint or on cue. It took 
>>> more
>>> time than it did with other dogs, but they get the hang of it.
>>> Guiding Eyes  actually issues the Halti among other collars with each 
>>> dog.
>>> Or, at least they did when I attended. Everyone doesn't need one all the
>>> time, but I have found myself in situations where the Halti was useful.
>>>
>>> On 2/26/14, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> Darla,
>>>> I have a Halti for jenny. Without knowing it, I bought the Halti (or
>>>> something very VERY similar as per Raven's description).  It has made
>>>> working with Jenny SO much easier!  her scavenging has exponentially
>>>> decreased (maybe once every trip or two, compared to ALL THE TIME),
>>>> and I have full confidence that with a little more hard work it will
>>>> almost disappear in time.
>>>>
>>>> Daryl and the sleepy Jenny
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:01:27 -0700 (MST)
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retiring a dog early
>>>>
>>>> I concur with Darrel; I'd be curious to know, though I am going to do
>>>> as Raven suggests and get a haltie.
>>>> Darla & Happy Huck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:33 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retiring a dog early
>>>>
>>>> Jewel,
>>>> While I am new to guide dogs, I don't have any advice regarding how to
>>>> let go and ways to love a new dog.
>>>>
>>>> May  I ask what Faye was doing re scavenging/sniffing that prompted
>>>> the trainer and you to come to this decision?  I am curious, as I have
>>>> a scavenger...
>>>>
>>>> Daryl and the sleepy Jenny doggie donut
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:11:24 -0700 (MST)
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Retiring a dog early
>>>>
>>>> Retiring a dog early
>>>> An instructor from my school came this weekend and assessed Faye's
>>>> behavior issues, specifically scavenging and sniffing. We decided
>>>> together it would be best to return Faye to the school and start the
>>>> intake for a new dog. I put so much love and time into this
>>>> relationship over the past eight months I have had her, I am having
>>>> trouble dealing with this. Is there any advice on how to enjoy the
>>>> last of the time I have with her and how to let go when I must? I am
>>>> also afraid of not being able to put as much love into my next guide
>>>> dog relationship. Did you find it easy to fall in love with a successor
>>> dog?
>>>> Jewel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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