[nagdu] Starting with clicker training?

[Kristen]

I tried it with treats, but Corvette won't eat on on his lead 
(which is needed for the sill I was working on, getting out of 
cars and from under places), so I'll have to try different 
rewards. I'm going back to KSDS to do some brush-up training next 
week and will ask about working on clicker training. I'll post 
what I learn from them.
--
Kristen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie J. via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
To: "Daryl Marie" <crazymusician at shaw.ca>, "NAGDU Mailing 
List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:39:11 -0500
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Starting with clicker training?

Daryl,

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by starting clicker training 
alone.  I
started using clicker training with Belle.  I did read lots and 
lots of
books.  I had a couple of email lists specific to clicker 
training where I
asked lots of questions.  For a while I had a trainer I worked 
with by
phone, but that didn't turn out so well.  she was sighted and 
could only
give sighted people instructions.  I was too new to the concepts 
to be able
to problem solve non visual ways myself.  I was frustrated and 
gave it up
for a short bit.  that's when I found the email lists, which 
turned out to
be much more helpful.

I live in a really small town, so there are no group classes or 
local
trainers that use clicker training.  I've always wanted to go to 
a weekend
workshop on clicker, but those don't come anywhere close.  All my
connections to clicker knowledge have been through the computer.  
If that's
what you mean by starting alone, then I think there are several 
folks on
this list that fit that description.

You can totally do it yourself.  Just read and get comfortable 
with the
ideas.  when you are ready start with the very basics of getting 
Jenny
introduced to the concept of click means reward is coming.  then 
move on to
a hand touch.  From there you can teach most anything.  Just 
remember not to
go too fast or lump too much in together.  that's my biggest 
challenge.

Think of it like building a block tower.  One block in the right 
place gets
a click and a treat.  Sure one block looks nothing like you want 
the
finished tower, but it is the first step.  Next time it's two 
blocks, and
the next it's three...until she gets the to the finished 
behavior.  At first
it will seem really slow.  That's because you are still fine 
tuning your
technique and Jenny is learning to think differently.  The time 
it takes to
teach a completed task will become dramatically faster the more 
you use
clicker.

HTH
Julie


-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Marie via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 2:09 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nagdu] Starting with clicker training?

hi!

As I am moving away from the correction/choke collar, I am 
considering using
clicker training in my partnership with Jenny.  Has anyone 
started clicker
training on their own? Any pointers? Dos and Don'ts?  I know 
Raven posted
www.clickertraining.com as a great resource, but it feel really 
really
overwhelming!

Daryl and Jenny

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