[nagdu] Fwd: Starting with clicker training?

Wed Jul 9 00:11:11 UTC 2014

> i personally do not use clicker training.
> during convention one woman told me that she was using the click and treat if her dog did a traffic check. ok, i just don’t get this.  why would i ever want my dog to turn it’s head towards me seeking a treat just after a traffic check?  my dog should continue to look out for traffic?
> another thing she told me was that dog was always seeking treats not only from her but from strangers, putting it’s nose in their hands.
> i’ll stick with the traditional good old, good girl and lots of praise.  
> 
> Vivianna
> 
> On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> This might help:
>> http://www.sue-eh.ca/page24/page23/
>> 
>> The original levels are available for free, but you can buy the new edition for $25 in accessible formats. I have it.
>> 
>> I’m not convinced that any one training method is *the* answer to everything, nor is one training philosophy correct to every situation or even every dog. There’s value to be had with a variety of tools. 
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Daryl,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure exactly what you mean by starting clicker training alone.  I started using clicker training with Belle.  I did read lots and lots of books.  I had a couple of email lists specific to clicker training where I asked lots of questions.  For a while I had a trainer I worked with by phone, but that didn't turn out so well.  she was sighted and could only give sighted people instructions.  I was too new to the concepts to be able to problem solve non visual ways myself.  I was frustrated and gave it up for a short bit.  that's when I found the email lists, which turned out to be much more helpful.
>>> 
>>> I live in a really small town, so there are no group classes or local trainers that use clicker training.  I've always wanted to go to a weekend workshop on clicker, but those don't come anywhere close.  All my connections to clicker knowledge have been through the computer.  If that's what you mean by starting alone, then I think there are several folks on this list that fit that description.
>>> 
>>> You can totally do it yourself.  Just read and get comfortable with the ideas.  when you are ready start with the very basics of getting Jenny introduced to the concept of click means reward is coming.  then move on to a hand touch.  From there you can teach most anything.  Just remember not to go too fast or lump too much in together.  that's my biggest challenge.
>>> 
>>> Think of it like building a block tower.  One block in the right place gets a click and a treat.  Sure one block looks nothing like you want the finished tower, but it is the first step.  Next time it's two blocks, and the next it's three...until she gets the to the finished behavior.  At first it will seem really slow.  That's because you are still fine tuning your technique and Jenny is learning to think differently.  The time it takes to teach a completed task will become dramatically faster the more you use clicker.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Marie via nagdu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 2:09 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Starting with clicker training?
>>> 
>>> hi!
>>> 
>>> As I am moving away from the correction/choke collar, I am considering using clicker training in my partnership with Jenny.  Has anyone started clicker training on their own? Any pointers? Dos and Don'ts?  I know Raven posted www.clickertraining.com as a great resource, but it feel really really overwhelming!
>>> 
>>> Daryl and Jenny
>>> 
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