[nagdu] I guess I will not be getting a dog

[Alyssa]

Barb,
You may also want to look up Occupaws which is in Wisconsin. They do exclusively home training.
Hth
Alyssa

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> On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Barb breuer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I life in Minnesota,  I plan on checking some more schools.  
> 
> Some talk about training their own guide, which I wouldn't mind doing.  I do wonder how you teach them about not crossing the street if a car is coming.    I have trained other animals, but not quite like this. 
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> ------ Original Message ------
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> From: Debbie Cole via nagdu
> To: Tami Jarvis, NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Sent: July 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I guess I will not be getting a dog
> 
> Yes it's worth it.  I'm sorry you were denied, Barb.
> 
> Most schools have in home training programs.  You don't mention where
> you live.  Don't give up.
> Debbie & Leone
> 
> On 7/15/14, Tami Jarvis via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Barb,
> >
> > I'm sorry to hear that. Did they give specific reasons? Did the reasons
> > seem reasonable to you? Is it something you can either refute or
> > address? How do you feel about appealing and getting a dog from that
> > program after the denial? What do you think about appealing and getting
> > a dog from that program after the denial?
> >
> > Those questions I asked myself when I was turned down by a program. I
> > decided I thought the reasons were not reasonable -- like that I could
> > read signs (I could not!) and so didn't need a guide dog. Since I had
> > provided all those records about my vision and since to my knowledge it
> > is not the job of a guide to read signs, I did not view this as a
> > reasonable reason! There was another one given that I considered equally
> > unreasonable, as well as a third that could have been taken more than
> > one way. I did call to see about clarification, but the reviewer did not
> > call me back. By that time it had occurred to me that while it was
> > pretty clear the interviewer and I did not hit it off (though we both
> > remained cordial throughout), the review board had signed off on the bit
> > about reading signs, so... I began looking into other programs and was
> > prepared to follow through on an application I had started before some
> > stuff came up, then got a puppy to owner-train. I had been thinking of
> > training a guide dog for years and really had a yen to do it anyway,
> > though I thought it made more sense to use a guide dog for awhile first
> > so I would know what I was training for. It was the insistence that I
> > demonstrate a full-strength two-handed leash correction with a firm
> > lecture that if they gave me a "strong" dog because they thought that
> > was best, then that was best no matter what I thought. I said I did not
> > want to go around the world that way, and I meant it. Anyway, it
> > occurred to me that I know how to train an animal to voice and subtle
> > hand and body signals, because that is how I like my animals to be and
> > how I like to be with them. I can be firm when I need to, and can get a
> > horse under control when strength and force are needed, but the notion
> > that force is a regular part of handling... I may have gotten a wrong
> > impression from her about that, although this was just before programs
> > started moving to more positive methods and working towards producing
> > softer dogs. Anyway, owner-training the first time out suddenly looked
> > like a more viable option to get what I wanted, although that is far
> > from the only reason I owner-trained.
> >
> > Aren't there other programs by now that provide in-home training even to
> > first-timers? It seems I've heard of a few people getting that from one
> > or more programs, but I'm short on sleep and may be hallucinating
> > perfect solutions. /smile/
> >
> > Keep us posted on what you decide to do and what happens.
> >
> > Tami
> >
> > On 07/14/2014 09:46 PM, Barb breuer via nagdu wrote:
> >> I just got the letter from Fidelco guide dog school and they say I don't
> >> qualify, they were my only hope to get a dog because they come to me to
> >> train with the dog and not me going to the school for three weeks. I can't
> >> get that kind of time off of work and keep my job at the same time.
> >> I was hoping to get a dog, this was something I had wanted for 40 years.
> >> I just don't understand why I don't qualify. I have no big special needs.
> >> they say I can appeal, , but is it worth it.
> >> Barb
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