[nagdu] (no subject)

Fri Jul 18 13:31:55 UTC 2014

I concur.  The trainer knew she was going to do an interview, but she didn't 
bother to prepare for it.  It's unprofessional.
Some people don't care about that kind of thing, but I do.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)

> Tracy makes some excellent points.
> I also wonder Barb, if you filled out the application inappropriately. If 
> it says "Can you cross streets independently?" did you respond with "Yes, 
> I can do this without a cane?" If you did, I can see why they rejected 
> you.
> That being said, there is no excuse for the woman doing the interview to 
> be unprepared. I'd not want to do business with anybody who couldn't or 
> wouldn't hold up their end of the deal.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione 
> via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:46 AM
> To: barbandzoe at comcast.net; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association 
> of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)
>
> Hi Barb.
> When I met my husband, he didn't use a cane.  I talked him into using one 
> when he slammed into a pole and had to get stitches.  He uses a folding 
> cane, as someone else suggested, and takes it out when he wants it, which 
> now is nearly all the time.  Because he's using his cane, he doesn't slam 
> into poles or fall down steps, which makes us both happy.  Also, people 
> understand why he's asking what a sign says, or where something is, or 
> even looks at them kinda sideways.
> He hasn't had formal training, just me showing him what to do when he 
> started out.  His technique could be a lot better, but even so he's a lot 
> safer with his cane than without.
> Tracy
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Barb breuer via nagdu
>  To: Becky Frankeberger ; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of 
> Guide Dog Users'
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:42 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)
>
>
>  Many ask if I use a cane,  I use it but I have not had formal training 
> with an O&M instructor.  So when a school wants me to have an instructor 
> sign that I can travel, I have to hire one.
>  I went to regular public school, and I didn't have the training.
>  Now I would have to talk a course or something.
>  Barb
>
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>
>    ------ Original Message ------
>
>    From: Becky Frankeberger
>    To: barbandzoe at comcast.net, 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National 
> Association of Guide Dog Users'
>    Sent: July 16, 2014 at 2:22 PM
>    Subject: RE: [nagdu] (no subject)
>    Barb, my husband went from travel vision to using a guide dog. He 
> absolutely loves the experience. He did later take O and M and used a 
> cane, but to stride out was so wonderfully freeing with a guide dog. He 
> did not have to look down and worry if he missed a crack or step. He 
> looked up and is so happy working a guide dog. Your dog will love going 
> with you on your job. Just make sure she sees you when you are away from 
> her in the tight areas you go into. High partials love working guide dogs, 
> so don’t worry about anything. As long as you are legally blind and that 
> is a wide range of abilities, try it out. If you don’t like it or the 
> extra work is too much, then you have other options. I remember my first 
> dog. I thought oh I have to get up even earlier to catch the van to 
> church. So I got up got dressed fed the dog and out we went for park time 
> and a quick brush time. Back in to finished the fine points of dressing, 
> and breakfast. I was ready a half hour before the van came. Boy was I 
> shocked. So this low partial has enjoyed the miracle of what these dogs 
> can do to keep us safe.
>
>
>
>    The miracle of you don’t have to follow any longer, that you can lead 
> if you choose. Right now you don’t have that choice. You said you cross 
> streets so I would anyway, say your orientation is fine. Leader has a 
> brush up program for a week if you need help with O and M.
>
>
>
>    I love myth busting you have to be very low vision and all the other 
> crap. The myth you have to use a cane first. No you just need to show you 
> can orient yourself and move about getting where you want to go safely.
>
>
>
>    The dog is extra work, but the freedom she will give you well you won’t 
> even think the things you do for her is work.
>
>
>
>    Sorry I don’t know why I keep saying she.
>
>
>
>    There are so many activities at night you could go to with a guide dog. 
> I would walk to the theater and see live plays. My dogs were always 
> welcomed. They would even tell me if there were going to be loud noises or 
> people running up and down the aisles. Then we would walk the several 
> blocks home confidently and safely.
>
>
>
>    Anyway My husband and I both have guide dogs.
>
>
>
>    So you choose your path, talk to schools, talk to us, talk to friends 
> in the area.
>
>    Warmly,
>
>    Becky and Jake
>
>
>
>    From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barb breuer 
> via nagdu
>    Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:50 AM
>    To: Full Name
>    Subject: [nagdu] (no subject)
>
>
>
>    I have been doing a lot of thinking sence  I started looking into 
> getting I guide dog.  Like do I need one, will it be a help to me, or can 
> I get around well enough on my own.  Plus do I have to much vision to 
> qualify.
>    I have a good amount of vision for a blind person.  My mother went to a 
> school for the blind, and didn't want her kids to go to one.  She wanted 
> us to learn to use the sight we had.
>    So now I feel like, I can do these things, cross the street, walk 
> without a cane, find my way.
>    I have had people I know ask why do you need a guide dog?  My answer is 
> because the dog would help me at night when I don't see so good, and in 
> the bright sun, plus I have thick glasses and I have little side vision. 
> I get a long well at work, but I clean locker rooms for a living and fold 
> towels.  Not a lot of need for dog.
>
>    I don't like going places that I haven't been so much because I do 
> think about, will there be a step or something I don't see.  I walk slower 
> because of it and when I am with people I walk a step behind and watch 
> where they step.
>    So I feel like a dog would make my life easier, and having a companion 
> with me would be nice.
>    I Am in my 50's and do think about how walking a dog,  people think 
> twice before they want to jump you.  But having a dog is a good way to 
> meet new friends.
>    Sorry for it being so long, I just have a lot on my mind.
>    Barb
>
>    Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App
>
>
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