[nagdu] Jumping out of Car

[Kristen]

I always jump out first and make sure that his tail/harness never 
gets caught.

Treats -- he will take them once in a while off-lead, but they 
don't phase him much. Corvette is already a finicky eater, and I 
notice that when he has been given a few treats, he will hold out 
a bit for them over food. Since he's not too crazy about them, I 
just give them once in a while, which also helps him with food 
refual on lead by not taking them when working.

Julie -- thanks for all the great ideas! I'm not sure what caused 
this resistance with him. My mom and I plan to drive around 
tomorrow and experiment with your suggestions. Will let you know 
how it goes.
--
Kristen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
To: "Kristen" <kskristen at gmail.com>,"NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:55:35 -0500
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jumping out of Car

Kristen,

A couple of thoughts...

First, do you have any idea why he won't get out voluntarily?  Is 
perhaps
his harness catching on something, or did it in the past and he 
is
remembering?  Or did he get bumped with the door and is shy about 
it?  If
you know what's causing the issue, it is easier to work through.

Ideas...this one is highly dependent on how available you have 
someone to
drive and how patient they are.  If he gets out in the driveway, 
I'd
continue to practice there.  then move the car back a few feet in 
the
driveway and get in and out a few times.  Park the car on the 
street in
front of your house, if this is possible and repeat getting and 
out.  then
Go to your neighbors house, in sight of your house and repeat 
getting in and
out.  I'd use treats, or a toy or some other high value reward 
saved just
for getting out of the car reward.

If that isn't doable or you don't like that approach, here's 
another idea.
What would happen if you got out of the car and left him behind?  
I don't
mean that you should go to work or shopping, but just if you 
stepped out of
the car and shut the door and then positioned yourself so he 
couldn't see
you?   If you think this would cause panic or trauma, don't do 
it, but if
you think the idea of being left would inspire him to want to go 
with you
next time, then it might be a doable option.

One more idea...have you ever tried a different vehicle or 
sitting in the
backseat?  It It is possible that just switching things up a bit 
could
disassociate the not getting out behavior with that specific 
circumstance.
Sometimes dogs will associate a traumatic event with a seemingly 
unrelated
trigger.   If he's had something unpleasant happen and associates 
it with
getting out of the car,  moving to a different place in the car 
could be
different enough that he doesn't make the connection.  It's not 
likely, but
it is an easy thing to try.

I hope you find something that works.
Julie




-----Original Message-----
From: Kristen via nagdu
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:57 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nagdu] Jumping out of Car

I think I may have posted about this before, but it is still
occurring. Corvette and I went to a grad retreat earlier this
week; the trainer was able to get him to jump out of the car
there a few times, but now, he is back to not budging. He becomes
one with the car floor and won't move unless I literally pick him
up and move him out. (75 lbs is a lot for me to pick up and
manually move when it's dead weight.)

He will only jump out on his own at home and at my school, but
everywhere else he resists. When he does jump out, I click, then
praise him like crazy. (He won't take treats on lead, which I
don't want to break.) I try to generalize him getting out of the
car by using the command "let's go" every time, but this hasn't
seemed to help at other places than my house and school. He is
better about getting up from under tables and leaving places with
the same cue, so he does know what it means.

Any suggestions on how I can get him to jump out willingly, no
matter where we are? I've also tried having him jump out several
times during obedience routines from our car in the driveway, and
of course, he will then, but not when we drive somewhere.

Thanks for any help!
--
Kristen

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