[nagdu] Probiotics, was Canidae

Sun Jul 27 17:01:23 UTC 2014

Because antibiotics prevent bacteria from reproducing rather than
killing them outright, any probiotics given to a dog while on
antibiotics will still function. The bacteria can assist in digestion
for as long as they survive inside the dog. Because they can't
reproduce while in the presence of antibiotics, probiotics need to be
given regularly. Once antibiotics are stopped, probiotics should
continue to be given for a certain length of time to reestablish the
microflora inside of the dogs digestive tract.
Hope this makes sense.
Danielle

On 7/26/14, Nicole Torcolini via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Where did you get this information? According to
> http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03052/Probiotics.html, you are supposed to
> start probiotics as soon as you start antibiotics. If you wait till the
> antibiotics are done, things can be pretty messed up by then, especially if
> it is a stronger antibiotic and/or a longer time period.
>
> Nicole
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:42 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Probiotics, was Canidae
>
> It doesn't seem useful to me to give probiotics with antibiotics, because
> the antibiotics will neutralize the probiotics.  So I wait until the
> antibiotics are done to start the probiotics, both for myself and the dog.
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [nagdu] Canidae
>
>
>> When the antibiotics were done? Um, as far as I know, he should have
>> been on probiotics  while taking the antibiotics.
>> Had you tried the rice and chicken yet when you got the antibiotics?
>> If you are ever in doubt, you could always try your own remedy and
>> give a little while before using the medicine. Yes, antibiotics are
>> sometimes necessary, but, for the reasons that Raven mentioned, they
>> really should not be used if not needed.
>> Lexia eats Blue Buffalo. There are several different formulas,
>> including one for senior dogs. Even though Lexia is eight, she does
>> not eat the senior one because it is not the one with the lowest fat
>> content. As people have said before, make a list of what is important
>> for you in a dog food and do some looking.
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>> Carcione via nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:25 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Canidae
>>
>> Raven, I'm way ahead of you.  Ben went on probiotics as soon as the
>> antibiotics were done.
>> Sherrill, no, Ben is on ALS.  He is a senior dog, but I looked at the
>> platinum formula, and it just added more grain.  I'm not sure that's
>> best.
>> I've been happy with Cannidae; I'm just not sure it's working for him
>> anymore, for some reason.
>> Darryl, thanks to your pointer, I found articles on Cannidae's change
>> in formula, but it seems to have been in 2011, so I don't think that's
>> my problem.  Good to know when it happened, though.
>> Buddy, that's exactly my problem.  I'm thinking about changing foods,
>> but there are so many choices.
>> I think I'll try calling my holistic pet store.  They have a dog food
>> advisor; maybe he has some ideas.  Won't hurt to ask.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>
>>> I have been feeding Canidae for some time now, first the platinum to
>>> my Merry dog when she was older, and to Fallon since she came home
>>> from
>> TSE.
>>> I
>>> give her the ALS four meats, and she has done well on it. I remember
>>> a few months ago reading something from Canidae  that the look of
>>> their bags was changing, but not their same great formula, or some
>>> such let's put the consumer at ease statement.
>>> I have had to ckut back on the amount I give Fallon as she was
>>> gaining weight, but that could certainly be due to her age, (she's
> approaching
>>> seven, doggone it)   We haven't had loose stool problems.
>>> I'm at the point with dog food where I'm not paranoid but I don't
>>> totally trust any of the companies. But ain't that the truth when it
>>> comes to our food as well, especially cereals.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming Ben is now on Platinum?
>>> Keep me, or the list, posted.
>>>
>>> Warm regards
>>> Sherrill and Fallon
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione via nagdu
>>> Sent: July 23, 2014 9:42 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Canidae
>>>
>>> Is anyone else feeding Canidae?  I am wondering if the formula has
>>> changed.  Ben has been eating Canidae for 8 years, and doing very
>>> well, but lately his stool has been very soft.  He's been on boiled
>>> chicken and rice for a week, but, when I start adding back kibble,
>>> the more I add, the squishier things get.  He's also had a course of
>>> antibiotics, even though the vet didn't find anything in the sample I
>>> brought in.  I hate when they do that.
>>> I really don't know what to think. The usual methods aren't working.
>>> I'm wondering if a change of food is in order, and, if so, what?
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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