[nagdu] an indian with a million questions
Poonam
poonam.vaidya at gmail.com
Thu Jul 31 05:28:19 UTC 2014
Thanks Dan and Cindy.
Dan: Yes, Urdu and Hindi are similar. A lot of words from Urdu were
adopted into Hindi and even English. The word sherbet comes from Urdu,
for example.
Cindy: I have checked out the dog school I mentioned, it had an address
and phone number, but the phone number does not work. I am going to
Mumbai next month anyway so I'll visit and let you all know if it
existed or not.
To CC
Hi,
I am actually planning to visit the US sometime anyway. Any information
on how I could contact the seeing eye school?
As for the other part, there are several articles,
Check out:
http://woofmag.in/articles2.asp?cat=233#.U9nQh2NUcmo
or just type in Joyce kane india guide dog in your search engine for more.
Is there a
manual or something like that on how to train your own guide dog?
Poonam
On 31-07-2014 AM 08:50, Ceci via nagdu wrote:
> Hello, I a think that guiding eyes excepts international students. Though it would have to be you the one go to United States to get the dog
> I suggest you contact the school and ask them
> By the way, that article about guide dogs going to India seems very interesting
> I was wondering where can I find it?
> Ceci
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 3. Teeth-cleaning (Karyn & Thane)
>> 4. Re: Teeth-cleaning (Debbie Cole)
>> 5. Re: help finding appropriate harness requested (Tami Jarvis)
>> 6. Re: Teeth-cleaning (Karyn & Thane)
>> 7. Re: Teeth-cleaning (Tracy Carcione)
>> 8. Re: Teeth-cleaning (Tracy Carcione)
>> 9. An Indian with a million Questions (Poonam)
>> 10. Re: Teeth-cleaning (Karyn & Thane)
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>> 12. Re: An Indian with a million Questions (Cindy Ray)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:10:24 -0500
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Diane" <vlasoff at roadrunner.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] help finding appropriate harness requested
>> Message-ID: <AA18AE1951FE41C5BE9CA7DCBE2731CB at JuliePC>
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>>
>> Diane,
>>
>> I sew custom nylon harnesses and would be willing to make one for you. I
>> typically use one of two main styles the standard or sport style. the
>> standard style is what most of the guide dog schools use with the chest
>> strap straight across the dog's chest. The Sport style has a "Y" shape to
>> the front, with the shoulder straps going over the shoulders at an angle and
>> meeting in the front at the breastbone. A martingale holds the shoulder
>> straps in place, which is a short strap that goes in between the dog's front
>> legs and loops over the belly strap. I can do your harness in a wide
>> variety of colors, widths and can make a variety of modifications to
>> customize it. Each harness is made specifically for a particular dog. I
>> don't keep any stock and I don't have sizes.
>>
>> I charge $100 plus the cost of materials. I have orders booked for the next
>> little while, so it would be a couple of months before I could start on your
>> order. If you have questions or if you'd like to talk by phone, email me
>> at:
>> julielj at neb.rr.com
>> and I will send you my phone number.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diane via nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:03 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] help finding appropriate harness requested
>>
>> I have been working with my fourth guide dog for about a month now. I chose
>> to wait for a standard poodle from a school new to me. I am extremely
>> pleased with all of her guide work. As is typical at this school we were
>> given a new harness to use at home. The small size harness we were sent
>> home with is inappropriately large for her. In fact our trainer pointed out
>> that if I bored another hole in the girth strap the harness would fit Jaxi
>> better. So, after flying home with this boat of a harness I bored another
>> notch into the girth strap and went about our merry way.
>>
>> Since the suggested remedy did not address the fact that the harness was
>> inappropriately large through Jaxi's chest Jaxi chewed through the chest
>> strap during an evening out about a week ago. Now her harness is duct taped
>> together.
>>
>> I contacted the school about a week ago in an effort to obtain an
>> appropriate sized harness for Jaxi. The only option was to try the training
>> harness as Jaxi's regular harness. This harness arrived Free Matter a
>> couple of days ago without a handle attached nor any directions on how to
>> remove and replace the handle to the new harness. But I regress.
>> Unfortunately this training harness is different from the one she wore
>> during our training and is not adjustable through her chest. Unless I can
>> get a harness with either an adjustable chest strap or an extra small
>> harness Jaxi will simply chew through successive harnesses. (This does not
>> even address the fact that an inappropriately fit harness could impact our
>> guide work).
>>
>> I am willing to purchase an appropriate harness for our use. I previously
>> received my dogs through GDB and would have again had they had a poodle as
>> an option. I do, however, prefer their Swiss style harness with the
>> removable ergonomic handle. My effort to locate the company GDB purchases
>> their equipment through has been unfruitful to the present. Does anyone
>> know either the company they use or a retailer from whom I could purchase
>> the same equipment without the GDB logo? Failing that does anyone know of a
>> company from whom I could purchase an extra small harness similar to that
>> GDB uses?
>>
>> Any assistance would be hugely appreciated! Thank you in advance.
>>
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:47:53 -0700
>> From: "Karyn & Thane" <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>
>> To: "Nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Flea/tic preventatives?
>> Message-ID: <C209C4A7C86B4742BE1392F8C3BF79A3 at NEWCOMP>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> Regarding Comfortis (or even Trifexis which includes heartworm) If you are
>> not dosing this with a full meal, that is the way to go according to
>> manufacturer.
>> If your dog is still getting sick, consider crushing it and mixing it into
>> some canned food first.
>> Thane used to get sick on it, but after I went to the full meal approach
>> with him, I never had a problem in that respect with it.
>> I have the luxury to often go more natural for fleas. We have a few months
>> where flea meds are necessary, then the rest I can approach it more
>> naturally with products like cedarcide (not to be used in cat, rodent, or
>> epileptic family member households)
>>
>> Karyn and Thane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:23:18 -0700
>> From: "Karyn & Thane" <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>
>> To: "Nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>> Message-ID: <CDB29E791BC14AC29D9DB3D92568FDF9 at NEWCOMP>
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>>
>> If its just a little tartar I'd look into a couple other options you can
>> begin now and possibly prevent the need for teeth cleaning or at least
>> significantly delay its necessity--
>>
>> 1) Bully Sticks. These are awesome for cleaning a dogs teeth. These are not
>> to be confused with those edible toothbrushes that have nasty ingredients
>> I'd never give my dog as well as having a history of causing obstructions
>> and seizures in epileptics, but a natural product made from bull penis. It
>> may sound gross to us but its quite natural to your dog. They can make stool
>> a little loose in the beginning so go easy as you build up to them. I use
>> bullysticks.com and get the 6 inch wide ones for Thane but they have a bunch
>> of other kinds (some are quite smelly, others not so much)
>>
>> 2) Petz Life oral spray and gel work to help loosen up tartar. I prefer the
>> gel and that is what I brush Thane's teeth with EVERY DAY. It is more
>> expensive than toothpaste, but I buy a large bottle on Amazon and it lasts
>> me about 5-7 months for Thane (Border Collie) I have used this since he was
>> on antibiotics for 9 months due to Lyme Disease.
>>
>> I would say that both of these options used together did wonders for Thane.
>> Petz life loosened the tartar and the bully sticks scrubbed it away.
>>
>> I would not do a dental without anesthesia though. The vast majority of a
>> dogs tooth is unseen to us hidden under the gum. When you do anesthesia
>> free, the job is not nearly as complete as it needs to be. This is a really
>> good article by Christie Keith (used to run a list I am on) on anesthesia
>> free dentistry
>> http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/YOUR-WHOLE-PET-Biting-down-on-anesthesia-free-2560292.php
>>
>> Karyn and Thane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 08:36:02 -0700
>> From: Debbie Cole <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Karyn & Thane" <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Thanks for that awesome information, Karyn. Checking into these
>> things as soon as I can. I'm scheduling Leone for a dental exam next
>> week.
>>
>> Debbie and Leone
>>
>>> On 7/29/14, Karyn & Thane via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> If its just a little tartar I'd look into a couple other options you can
>>> begin now and possibly prevent the need for teeth cleaning or at least
>>> significantly delay its necessity--
>>>
>>> 1) Bully Sticks. These are awesome for cleaning a dogs teeth. These are not
>>>
>>> to be confused with those edible toothbrushes that have nasty ingredients
>>> I'd never give my dog as well as having a history of causing obstructions
>>> and seizures in epileptics, but a natural product made from bull penis. It
>>> may sound gross to us but its quite natural to your dog. They can make stool
>>>
>>> a little loose in the beginning so go easy as you build up to them. I use
>>> bullysticks.com and get the 6 inch wide ones for Thane but they have a bunch
>>>
>>> of other kinds (some are quite smelly, others not so much)
>>>
>>> 2) Petz Life oral spray and gel work to help loosen up tartar. I prefer the
>>>
>>> gel and that is what I brush Thane's teeth with EVERY DAY. It is more
>>> expensive than toothpaste, but I buy a large bottle on Amazon and it lasts
>>> me about 5-7 months for Thane (Border Collie) I have used this since he was
>>>
>>> on antibiotics for 9 months due to Lyme Disease.
>>>
>>> I would say that both of these options used together did wonders for Thane.
>>>
>>> Petz life loosened the tartar and the bully sticks scrubbed it away.
>>>
>>> I would not do a dental without anesthesia though. The vast majority of a
>>> dogs tooth is unseen to us hidden under the gum. When you do anesthesia
>>> free, the job is not nearly as complete as it needs to be. This is a really
>>>
>>> good article by Christie Keith (used to run a list I am on) on anesthesia
>>> free dentistry
>>> http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/YOUR-WHOLE-PET-Biting-down-on-anesthesia-free-2560292.php
>>>
>>> Karyn and Thane
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 09:53:20 -0700
>> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
>> To: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] help finding appropriate harness requested
>> Message-ID: <53D7D180.60501 at poodlemutt.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>> Diane,
>>
>> I really like the sport style harness that Julie made for Mitzi poodle
>> long ago, as well as the slightly different Laveau style from Pawpower
>> Creations, which no longer exists. The Y arrangement for the shoulder
>> straps keeps those active shoulders free to move and brings the point of
>> pressure below the trachea to the sternum, while the martingale spreads
>> force along the sternum. I get a lot of communication from the harness,
>> which I really like.
>>
>> I haven't tried out the more traditional style with the chest strap
>> straight across the shoulders on my poodle guide, but when I was first
>> trying to figure out the whole harness thing, I just couldn't see how
>> that would be comfortable for her and how it would not impede her
>> movements too much for no good reason. I may be wrong, since apparently
>> the programs use the standard style on their poodle guides.
>>
>> Good luck, and if you find something that you really like for your
>> poodle guide, do share!
>>
>> Tami
>>
>>> On 07/29/2014 05:10 AM, Julie J. via nagdu wrote:
>>> Diane,
>>>
>>> I sew custom nylon harnesses and would be willing to make one for
>>> you. I typically use one of two main styles the standard or sport
>>> style. the standard style is what most of the guide dog schools use
>>> with the chest strap straight across the dog's chest. The Sport style
>>> has a "Y" shape to the front, with the shoulder straps going over the
>>> shoulders at an angle and meeting in the front at the breastbone. A
>>> martingale holds the shoulder straps in place, which is a short strap
>>> that goes in between the dog's front legs and loops over the belly
>>> strap. I can do your harness in a wide variety of colors, widths and
>>> can make a variety of modifications to customize it. Each harness is
>>> made specifically for a particular dog. I don't keep any stock and I
>>> don't have sizes.
>>>
>>> I charge $100 plus the cost of materials. I have orders booked for the
>>> next little while, so it would be a couple of months before I could
>>> start on your order. If you have questions or if you'd like to talk by
>>> phone, email me at:
>>> julielj at neb.rr.com
>>> and I will send you my phone number.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Diane via nagdu
>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:03 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] help finding appropriate harness requested
>>>
>>> I have been working with my fourth guide dog for about a month now. I
>>> chose
>>> to wait for a standard poodle from a school new to me. I am extremely
>>> pleased with all of her guide work. As is typical at this school we were
>>> given a new harness to use at home. The small size harness we were sent
>>> home with is inappropriately large for her. In fact our trainer pointed
>>> out
>>> that if I bored another hole in the girth strap the harness would fit Jaxi
>>> better. So, after flying home with this boat of a harness I bored another
>>> notch into the girth strap and went about our merry way.
>>>
>>> Since the suggested remedy did not address the fact that the harness was
>>> inappropriately large through Jaxi's chest Jaxi chewed through the chest
>>> strap during an evening out about a week ago. Now her harness is duct
>>> taped
>>> together.
>>>
>>> I contacted the school about a week ago in an effort to obtain an
>>> appropriate sized harness for Jaxi. The only option was to try the
>>> training
>>> harness as Jaxi's regular harness. This harness arrived Free Matter a
>>> couple of days ago without a handle attached nor any directions on how to
>>> remove and replace the handle to the new harness. But I regress.
>>> Unfortunately this training harness is different from the one she wore
>>> during our training and is not adjustable through her chest. Unless I can
>>> get a harness with either an adjustable chest strap or an extra small
>>> harness Jaxi will simply chew through successive harnesses. (This does not
>>> even address the fact that an inappropriately fit harness could impact our
>>> guide work).
>>>
>>> I am willing to purchase an appropriate harness for our use. I previously
>>> received my dogs through GDB and would have again had they had a poodle as
>>> an option. I do, however, prefer their Swiss style harness with the
>>> removable ergonomic handle. My effort to locate the company GDB purchases
>>> their equipment through has been unfruitful to the present. Does anyone
>>> know either the company they use or a retailer from whom I could purchase
>>> the same equipment without the GDB logo? Failing that does anyone know
>>> of a
>>> company from whom I could purchase an extra small harness similar to that
>>> GDB uses?
>>>
>>> Any assistance would be hugely appreciated! Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:11:24 -0700
>> From: Karyn & Thane <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>> Message-ID: <A1998569-963F-4EF3-A17F-8D004C738C88 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> ne thing to look into for program dogs is that the Veterinary Dentistry assoc 9dont know their exact name) did free dental evals last year similar to the ophthamology program that happens each May. I'm not sure if this was just USA or if all countries were involved.
>>
>> Anytime I take Thane to the vet, I ask about his teeth. It is a priority for me to stay ahead of the game. Many who feed raw diets (especially prey model) also find that their dogs teeth are cleaned well from that. Thane did not reap the benefits with dental though when he was on it but thus far we have not had a vet say he needs a cleaning-- in fact even at their worst, they said the tartar was quite mild. To me, mild or not, it doesn't belong there, but I know unless you choose to have the teeth sealed, the more they are cleaned, the more they need cleaned. My parents experienced this with their dogs so I really like to be proactive with mine. I've brushed Thane's teeth daily since I got him at 9 months of age.
>>
>> Karyn and Thane
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:14:39 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "Karyn & Thane" <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>> Message-ID: <170011AC8BC440FCB58B90F0DA7A6DCA at tracy>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> I am trying something called Petlife dental gel, or something like that. It
>> claims that, if I rub it along the gumline twice a day for a month, it will
>> clean off the tartar. I've been using it a couple weeks. I don't know how
>> to tell if it's taking off the tartar so Ben won't need a cleaning, but his
>> breath is a whole lot better. Guess I'll have to make another vet visit
>> after a month, or go to the free dental visit.
>> After a month, I'm supposed to go to maintenance, and only use the gel 3
>> times a week. Great, if it works as advertised.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karyn & Thane via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>>
>>
>>> ne thing to look into for program dogs is that the Veterinary Dentistry
>>> assoc 9dont know their exact name) did free dental evals last year similar
>>> to the ophthamology program that happens each May. I'm not sure if this
>>> was just USA or if all countries were involved.
>>>
>>> Anytime I take Thane to the vet, I ask about his teeth. It is a priority
>>> for me to stay ahead of the game. Many who feed raw diets (especially prey
>>> model) also find that their dogs teeth are cleaned well from that. Thane
>>> did not reap the benefits with dental though when he was on it but thus
>>> far we have not had a vet say he needs a cleaning-- in fact even at their
>>> worst, they said the tartar was quite mild. To me, mild or not, it doesn't
>>> belong there, but I know unless you choose to have the teeth sealed, the
>>> more they are cleaned, the more they need cleaned. My parents experienced
>>> this with their dogs so I really like to be proactive with mine. I've
>>> brushed Thane's teeth daily since I got him at 9 months of age.
>>>
>>> Karyn and Thane
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:39:16 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "Karyn & Thane" <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>> Message-ID: <B8EC6AACE49945DE960B80E54E596430 at tracy>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Thanks Karen. This is the stuff I'm trying. It's good to know it's working
>> for you. I'll have to look into the bully sticks, too.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Karyn & Thane via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:23 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>>
>>
>>> If its just a little tartar I'd look into a couple other options you can
>>> begin now and possibly prevent the need for teeth cleaning or at least
>>> significantly delay its necessity--
>>>
>>> 1) Bully Sticks. These are awesome for cleaning a dogs teeth. These are
>>> not
>>> to be confused with those edible toothbrushes that have nasty ingredients
>>> I'd never give my dog as well as having a history of causing obstructions
>>> and seizures in epileptics, but a natural product made from bull penis. It
>>> may sound gross to us but its quite natural to your dog. They can make
>>> stool
>>> a little loose in the beginning so go easy as you build up to them. I use
>>> bullysticks.com and get the 6 inch wide ones for Thane but they have a
>>> bunch
>>> of other kinds (some are quite smelly, others not so much)
>>>
>>> 2) Petz Life oral spray and gel work to help loosen up tartar. I prefer
>>> the
>>> gel and that is what I brush Thane's teeth with EVERY DAY. It is more
>>> expensive than toothpaste, but I buy a large bottle on Amazon and it lasts
>>> me about 5-7 months for Thane (Border Collie) I have used this since he
>>> was
>>> on antibiotics for 9 months due to Lyme Disease.
>>>
>>> I would say that both of these options used together did wonders for
>>> Thane.
>>> Petz life loosened the tartar and the bully sticks scrubbed it away.
>>>
>>> I would not do a dental without anesthesia though. The vast majority of a
>>> dogs tooth is unseen to us hidden under the gum. When you do anesthesia
>>> free, the job is not nearly as complete as it needs to be. This is a
>>> really
>>> good article by Christie Keith (used to run a list I am on) on anesthesia
>>> free dentistry
>>> http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/YOUR-WHOLE-PET-Biting-down-on-anesthesia-free-2560292.php
>>>
>>> Karyn and Thane
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 01:50:26 +0530
>> From: Poonam <poonam.vaidya at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] An Indian with a million Questions
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>> Dear all,
>> I just joined this mailing list in order to know a bit more about guide
>> dogs. I am not sure if we are supposed to limit our queries to one
>> question, but if yes, the moderator will probably take care of it.
>>
>> So here are my questions:
>> 1. There is just one guide dog school in India called the ?Drushti Guide
>> Dog School. It was founded in 2005, but there is absolutely no
>> information about it online apart from that. I was hoping someone has
>> visited or has some information about it?
>> 2. Anyone been to India with their guide dog? Do describe your
>> experience. I have read one popularized article, but that's all.
>> 3. One problem I am having, apart from others in my country, is that
>> there are packs of stray dogs running about. When I was a sighted
>> person, I did own a dog and these packs of dogs would attack him
>> whenever we went for a walk. I used to throw or rather pretend to throw
>> pebbles at them before they ran away before. Keeping this in mind, how
>> do I deal with them? Has anyone had such an experience?
>> 4. Is it possible to get a dog transported from another country to mine?
>> If yes, how much would I need to pay, if anything and how would I go
>> about training for myself?
>> 5. How difficult is it to train your own guide dog? I know it is not
>> strictly reccomended, but i'd like to give it a try and want to know if
>> any of you have tried.
>>
>> I have a few more questions, but will resist for now.
>>
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Poonam
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:27:40 -0700
>> From: Karyn & Thane <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Teeth-cleaning
>> Message-ID: <2FA11E15-3816-487B-9208-4C5B489D3D00 at gmail.com>
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>> Tracy I tried rubing it that way, but I found it did not seem to work quite as well for Thane. I used to use both products with my previous dog who could not be anesthetized. They are both basically the same thing-- but the gel supposably works faster when combined with the spray. There was another product in Canada that is a spray called Lebia II. It is a spray with same benefits I guess but I never had the opportunity to try it.
>>
>> Karyn and Thane
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:16:40 -0400
>> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>> To: "'Poonam'" <poonam.vaidya at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] An Indian with a million Questions
>> Message-ID: <20140729211642.0F298A8FE at thunderer.cnc.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> How fascinating a new friend on the list from India.
>> I am Dan Weiner from Florida and I have my fourth guide dog, a yellow lab
>> named Parker who is most of the time, much better behaved than I am.
>> I have been blind since age nine and have a hearing problem in one ear
>> though fortunately the other ear does it's best to keep me out of trouble.
>>
>>
>> Some of my dogs came from Leader Dogs in Michigan, USA, and I talked with a
>> trainer from there once about unusual students he had had and he said that
>> they did train a dog for someone from India in the seventies but that was a
>> long time ago--lol.
>> That is to say, the person came from India or perhaps it was an Indian
>> person who was studying in the US, I don't remember.
>>
>> Unfortunately, though I think most of the US schools now have limited how
>> much they will train people from other countries because once the person
>> goes home, it is very hard to give after-care for the person-dog team.
>>
>> So, though I haven't really answered any of your questions, I wanted to
>> welcome you to the list and hope that others have useful things to tell
>> you.
>>
>> Feel free to write to me if you like because I am very curious about life in
>> India and being a language lover, I studied a bit of Urdu, which, if I am
>> not mistaken, is close to Hindi.
>>
>> Dan from Florida and the Parker Dog
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Poonam via nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:20 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] An Indian with a million Questions
>>
>> Dear all,
>> I just joined this mailing list in order to know a bit more about guide
>> dogs. I am not sure if we are supposed to limit our queries to one question,
>> but if yes, the moderator will probably take care of it.
>>
>> So here are my questions:
>> 1. There is just one guide dog school in India called the 'Drushti Guide Dog
>> School. It was founded in 2005, but there is absolutely no information about
>> it online apart from that. I was hoping someone has visited or has some
>> information about it?
>> 2. Anyone been to India with their guide dog? Do describe your experience. I
>> have read one popularized article, but that's all.
>> 3. One problem I am having, apart from others in my country, is that there
>> are packs of stray dogs running about. When I was a sighted person, I did
>> own a dog and these packs of dogs would attack him whenever we went for a
>> walk. I used to throw or rather pretend to throw pebbles at them before they
>> ran away before. Keeping this in mind, how do I deal with them? Has anyone
>> had such an experience?
>> 4. Is it possible to get a dog transported from another country to mine?
>> If yes, how much would I need to pay, if anything and how would I go about
>> training for myself?
>> 5. How difficult is it to train your own guide dog? I know it is not
>> strictly reccomended, but i'd like to give it a try and want to know if any
>> of you have tried.
>>
>> I have a few more questions, but will resist for now.
>>
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Poonam
>>
>>
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 16:31:11 -0500
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] An Indian with a million Questions
>> Message-ID: <ADD3304E-ACD5-4F8B-88C7-56DF835A6A92 at gmail.com>
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>>> So here are my questions:
>>> 1. There is just one guide dog school in India called the 'Drushti Guide Dog
>>> School. It was founded in 2005, but there is absolutely no information about
>>> it online apart from that. I was hoping someone has visited or has some
>>> information about it?
>> Poonam welcome. Does the school have contact information at all on line? You might want to consider calling them.
>>
>>> 2. Anyone been to India with their guide dog? Do describe your experience. I
>>> have read one popularized article, but that's all.
>>> I don?t know what the quarantine laws of India are, and it is an interesting question.
>>> 3. One problem I am having, apart from others in my country, is that there
>>> are packs of stray dogs running about. When I was a sighted person, I did
>>> own a dog and these packs of dogs would attack him whenever we went for a
>>> walk. I used to throw or rather pretend to throw pebbles at them before they
>>> ran away before. Keeping this in mind, how do I deal with them? Has anyone
>>> had such an experience?
>>> A number of people have had problems with dogs, probably some being stray, but I have never heard of anyone dealing with this particular problem. This might be one of the advantages of going to the school that is located in India. This sounds like a difficult problem.
>>
>>> 4. Is it possible to get a dog transported from another country to mine?
>>> If yes, how much would I need to pay, if anything and how would I go about
>>> training for myself?
>>> 5. How difficult is it to train your own guide dog? I know it is not
>>> strictly reccomended, but i'd like to give it a try and want to know if any
>>> of you have tried.
>>> A number of people on the list have trained their own dogs, so I am sure they will weigh in on the topic.
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:18:38 -0700
>> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "'Karyn & Thane'" <bcpaws4me at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing List, the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Flea/tic preventatives?
>> Message-ID: <FF6BC0FDB4CF43BEAF0209F38220DAC6 at NicoleDell>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I do give it with a full meal. Lexia has only gotten sick to her stomach a
>> few times. I don't remember exactly what happened a while back, but I think
>> that the problem the last time that she had an upset stomach was that I had
>> given her the pill for the larger breeds because she had put on a little
>> weight; however, she was not far enough into the upper weight range to take
>> that dose. I have switched back to the smaller breed dose, and everything
>> seems fine now. Also, unless I literally pounded the pill into dust, I very
>> seriously doubt that Lexia would eat food that had Confortis mixed in it.
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karyn & Thane via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:48 AM
>> To: Nagdu
>> Subject: [nagdu] Flea/tic preventatives?
>>
>> Regarding Comfortis (or even Trifexis which includes heartworm) If you are
>> not dosing this with a full meal, that is the way to go according to
>> manufacturer.
>> If your dog is still getting sick, consider crushing it and mixing it into
>> some canned food first.
>> Thane used to get sick on it, but after I went to the full meal approach
>> with him, I never had a problem in that respect with it.
>> I have the luxury to often go more natural for fleas. We have a few months
>> where flea meds are necessary, then the rest I can approach it more
>> naturally with products like cedarcide (not to be used in cat, rodent, or
>> epileptic family member households)
>>
>> Karyn and Thane
>>
>>
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:28:58 -0700
>> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "'Danielle Sykora'" <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [nagdu' new dog, sniffing, and scavenging
>> Message-ID: <40178FE60C2D4D75AD604C8D3CCBE6C8 at NicoleDell>
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>> Sometimes, corrections followed by rewards can help stop a behavior, but it
>> sounds as though that is not the case for you. Is there anything in
>> particular that he does when he sniffs? Are there certain things that cause
>> him to sniff more than others? Is there anything that you know will get his
>> attention? For example, it gets the attention of some dogs if you just stop
>> dead in your tracks and drop the harness handle. Did they tell you what to
>> do about the sniffing in class? I wonder if his puppy raisers let him get
>> away with sniffing.
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Danielle Sykora [mailto:dsykora29 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:21 AM
>> To: Nicole Torcolini
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [nagdu' new dog, sniffing, and scavenging
>>
>> Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I agree with Raven. I want my dog
>> to work for the possibility of rewards, not to avoid correction. Yes,
>> corrections temporarily stop a behavior but they don't fix it over time.
>> When I correct my dog for sniffing, he stops for the moment but will start
>> sniffing again a short time later. He has always been sniffy, even during
>> class.
>>
>> Danielle
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 7/27/14, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>> Was he sniffy during class, or is this a new behavior?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
>>> Sykora via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:51 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] [nagdu' new dog, sniffing, and scavenging
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I returned home from GDF on Friday with my new dog, a male lab/golden
>>> cross named Thai. Since we have gotten home, I have begun to avoid
>>> using corrections, especially leash corrections. He tends to be quite
>>> sniffy, especially in places with a lot of food. A firm "leave it"
>>> usually is sufficient but it can be difficult to quickly get his
>> attention.
>>> Also, he will scavenge for food and pick up dropped items which he
>>> really should not be eating. This behavior mostly occurs out of
>>> harness, but it is still undesirable. Any thoughts on decreasing
>>> sniffing and strengthening food refusal skills using positive methods?
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>>
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