[nagdu] Other Kinds of Service Dogs

Thu Jun 5 05:35:00 UTC 2014

Well, Raven and Nicole, seeing as I started this thread because I was 
fascinated that this dog could sniff out even a couple of bedbugs I thaught 
Nicole was right. But as so often happens when I get my wrist slapped in 
public, I started thinking! Could I have refused the dog coming in? Or could 
a nursing home refuse? Or, if the woman happened to want to stop for a bite 
would she have to leave her heat sensative equipment in the car? The dog was 
well trained so that at least isn't the issue. Also members of the Canine 
unit are allowed in other places as well. And now that dogs are being 
trained to sniff out drugs, bombs diseases and bedbugs it seems that it may 
become harder to refuse them into businesses. Is there a working dog law as 
well as a service dog one? and, are there certain jobs listed for those 
working dogs that make it ok to go into public places and others, and here 
I'm thinking of herding dogs or hunting dogs, that can't go into places. If 
you go to the doctor and there is a diabetes or cancer sniffing dog, can you 
refuse to have the doctor use it? Well, actually I do know the answer to 
that one, yes! But at least in the case of the bedbug sniffer dogs may be 
much more efficent! If we can clog up the list with all of this fake service 
dog stuff why not think about the dogs who, like our dogs have relevant jobs 
to do! After all, a well trained dog is a well trained dog no matter what 
its job is! Sure, this list is about guide dogs and the issues surrounding 
them but sometimes dogs that aren't guide dogs often perform amazing and 
often unthaught of taks. Dogs have been awarded metals for some of those 
jobs and I'm glad that sometimes are guide dogs get some of that 
recognition. I had to take my dogs outside for about 10 minutes and her dog 
was done before that! They went threw the whole house and nothing was 
detected. I was talking to her about the dogs training and she told me it 
was at least a couple of months long and was like that of drug sniffing 
dogs. I mean, those bugs are the size of grains of rice and she said that he 
could detect them even if there wer only a couple. Iether those things 
really stink or that nose is really sensative! Well, sorry I disturbed some 
of you with my currisities but, I really did think that golden boy had an 
amazing nose!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raven Tolliver via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Other Kinds of Service Dogs


> IMO, these are definitely service dogs (i.e., bomb-sniffing dogs, drug
> dogs, police dogs, and so on). I would classify those dogs that aid
> persons with disabilities as assistance dogs. That might not be the
> government's definition of service dog, but it wouldn't be the first
> time I thought they got it wrong.
>
> On 6/4/14, Nicole Torcolini via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Can we please close this thread? No, I am not the moderator, but,
>> JMHO, this is pushing the limit for what is considered on topic. Yes, 
>> this
>> is related to dogs, but it is not related to service  dogs. I don't know
>> what you would call these dogs, perhaps working dogs, but they are not
>> service dogs. We all know this, and the general public does not need us 
>> to
>> add to their confusion on the definition of service dog. Finally, this
>> conversation seems to have taken a turn such that information that does 
>> not
>> necessarily belong on this list is being presented.
>>
>> Going to hide under my rock now,
>> Nicole
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 12:48 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Other Kinds of Service Dogs
>>
>> From what I understand, the dog doesn't smell the
>> man's genitils, he or she sniffs the urine.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alyssa via 
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:04 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Other Kinds of Service Dogs
>>
>> Lol! I feel like taut would be so awkward for the poor men. Well anyway, 
>> it
>> is quite interesting the things dogs can do. They perform services for
>> disabilities and many other jobs alike. It is neat!
>> Alyssa
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's easy.  He's a working dog, like a police dog, or a bomb-sniffer
>> dog. I heard recently that dogs can sniff out prostate cancer better than
>> any lab test.  Guess that's another kind of lab test--a labrador test!
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Heaps via nagdu"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Other Kinds of Service Dogs
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's really funny.  Not to pick nits (a different kind of bug), but
>>>> a
>> dog that finds bed bugs wouldn't really be a service dog -- though it
>> performs a service I suppose we all would find really valuable.  How 
>> would
>> you classify Bedbug Doug the Bedbug Dog?
>>>>
>>>> Craig and Chase, who as far as I know is bug free
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry D Keeler via nagdu"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:18 AM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Other Kinds of Service Dogs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is slightly off topic but it does concern dogs. This morning,
>>>>> they
>> inspected us for bedbugs. I thaught they would bring over chemicals and
>> generally disturb everything looking for them. Well no! They braught a
>> golden retriever and he is trained to sniff them out! he found none. I
>> found
>> this really interesting. The noses! I was teasing the woman who had the
>> dog.
>> I read a story about a guy named Bedbug Doug. I figured that Bedbug Doug
>> the
>> Bedbug Dog would sound great!
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