[nagdu] Over There

Fri Jun 6 02:54:00 UTC 2014

I go outside of the building at lunch, and Lexia takes me over to one of the
food trucks.
Me to one of the people in line: "Is this the Waffle Roost food truck?"
Person: "No."
Me: "Can you tell me where it is?"
Person: "Over there."
Me: "What do you mean by over there?"
Person: "In that direction."
Normally, by this time, one of the security officers or other various
contract workers who know me have noticed what is going on and come to my
rescue.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan via
nagdu
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:41 PM
To: Star Gazer; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Over There

For reference, this was written by Cathy Anne Murtha. Seems it comes around
on the guitar every so often, isn't attributed, no one's fault really I
don't guess, and we have the "Who wrote this bit of brilliance"
conversation. So, when it comes around again on the guitar, you can say,
"Oh! That was written by Cathy Anne Murtha," and more people will know this
thing. And then we can all sing a few bars of Alice's Restaurant, and.oh,
wait, that isn't for a few more months. 
On Jun 5, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> That's probably because people don't know how to speak in a language 
> that makes sense. I don't mean as in English or German, more of a 
> definition of terms. If you've ever written code or talked with atoddler
you'll see this.
> There are a lot of assumptions going on, and when the normal "over there"
> doesn't work, the person then has to figure out what will. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristen via 
> nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:27 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Over There
> 
> I find it funny how people will say "over there" when they see we have 
> guide dogs.
> 
> I've had people say that it's easier to grab my arm and take me "over
there"
> than to give directions. My grandma is famous for that; I sometimes 
> asked her to guide me before I had Corvette because she was so bad at
directions.
> She is also losing her memory, so that may be part of why she thinks 
> it's still okay.
> --
> Kristen
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Heaps" <craig.heaps at comcast.net
> To: "Kristen" <kskristen at gmail.com>,"NAGDU Mailing List,the National 
> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Thu, 5 
> Jun 2014
> 09:08:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Over There
> 
> That's terrific.  I know that on BART trains most of the empty seats 
> are "over there".  I know because people tell me that's where they are.
> 
> The other extreme is the person who, when I say, "Is there a seat 
> available for me and my guide dog?", grabs my arm and drags me "over
there."
> 
> Craig and Chase
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kristen via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:08 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] Over There
> 
> 
> I do not know who wrote this, but I bet we have all experienced the 
> very same thing. I found it on a Facebook group and thought it would 
> be appropriate here:
> 
>  "Over There"
>  As my guide dog Shadow and I stood in line at the checkout of the 
> River City Market at CSUS, I asked the cashier what I considered a 
> simple question. "Where are the napkins please?"
>  Her response was hurried, but sincere, "over there."
>  Emerging from the light rail for the first time, I managed to catch 
> the attention of a passer-by. "Please sir, can you tell me where I 
> might catch bus 63?"
>  A kind voice offered a pleasant response before disappearing into the 
> cacophony of the early afternoon, "You can catch it, Over there."
>  So many things reside over there -- napkins, bus stops, pencils, 
> pens, clothing racks, department stores and even my shoes! A never 
> ending supply of important and indispensable items and locales all 
> reside in this place which is shrouded in mystery and intrigue. I 
> stand in perplexed silence after learning that something is over 
> there. It is a place I have never been and have no hope of finding on my
own.
>  My guide dog is quite skilled in finding chairs, stairs, elevators, 
> escalators, helping me cross streets, and can even find me the Diet 
> Pepsi display at Food Town; however, when I tell her to find "over 
> there", her little bottom hits the floor and a small whimper tells me 
> that she is as confused as I.
>  We will not be going "over there" today. Over there has caused me 
> abit of vexation, a lot of confusion and, on occasion, made my heart 
> race. I have discovered that "over there" can be a dangerous place.
>  One day while crossing a street, I heard a driver's irritated voice 
> shout out a warning of a truck bearing down on me from over there.
> Shadow
> artfully dodged the oncoming vehicle and pulled me to the safety of 
> the curb. Our hearts were both racing as we took a few moments to 
> compose ourselves.
>  Close encounters with over there can be frightening experiences. 
> Although many blind people have wondered as to the exact location of, 
> "over  there,", few have dared to venture forth in an actual 
> exploration of the  mysterious place.
>  One day, while standing in line at the supermarket, I asked the clerk 
> where I might find the aspirin. With a cheery smile in her voice, she 
> informed me that the aspirin was located, "over there."
>  With a weary sigh, I decided that I would take the extra step that 
> would unravel the mystery, which had vexed my compatriots since the 
> beginning of time.
>  Taking a deep breath, and attempting to look nonchalant, I smiled at 
> the clerk, "Where," I asked, "is over there?" I imagined the girl's 
> shocked expression. I felt her sharing condescending and concerned 
> looks with her fellows in the store. The silence grew palpable as they 
> mulled the possibility of allowing a blind person access to the 
> forbidden land. She had no choice; she would have to tell me how to find
"over there!"
>  I had won! Exhilaration swept through me as I waited in breathless 
> anticipation. A victorious smile crept to my lips, my hand tightened 
> on  the handle of Shadow's harness, we would soon be going over there!
>  The clerk's voice reeked with resignation as the decision was made. 
> "That way," she said.
> --
> Kristen
> 
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