[nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Sun Jun 29 14:51:36 UTC 2014

Without having more information, I can't comment on your situation with your
second guide dog. However, I will say that what you and your dog experienced
is not always the case. I have not retired a dog yet, but I have heard from
others that staying at home and/or living with a new owner can be very hard
for a newly retired guide dog.

Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: Star Gazer [mailto:pickrellrebecca at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:35 AM
To: 'Nicole Torcolini'
Subject: RE: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Meaning that if she or anybody decides that a given dog or the guide dog as
an overarching concept doesn't work for them, the dog in question and the
concept won't hold a grudge. 
My second dog didn't care one bit when I decided the cane was the better
option for me. She was literally fat dumb and happy at my parents house. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Torcolini [mailto:ntorcolini at wavecable.com]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 1:05 AM
To: 'Star Gazer'; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'; 'Marsha Drenth'
Subject: RE: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

The dogs won't care? Uh???

A rather baffled Nicole 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via
nagdu
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:25 AM
To: 'Marsha Drenth'; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Buddy's response was great!
You'll also have an emotional transition. Some of your friends won't like
dogs even those that say they do. You'll become friends with people who do
like dogs even people you might not otherwise have anything in common with. 
People will expect the world of your dog, things the dog isn't capable of
doing. Educating them can be difficult. 
There's nothing like the feeling you'll have when you meet your first dog.
Enjoy it, no matter how the relationship ends, which it will do at some
point. 
You don't have to always use a dog. It's ok to leave your dog home from time
to time. It's also ok to decide at whatever point in your life that a
particular dog, or a guide dog as a concept is not good for you. The dogs
won't care and the schools shouldn't. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth via
nagdu
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:26 AM
To: Buddy Brannan; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Cc: clarebearwest at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

I like buddies response. And I would totally agree with the 1.5 brain part.
:-) Yes Claire, there is an adjustment period. with practice and working a
dog you will learn your dogs body language, and what your dog is trying to
tell you. Unfortunately as Buddy also said, sometimes you're not going to
read what your dog is telling you right. And you will be the one who is
wrong. I've been working several dogs, and sometimes I have no clue what my
dogs have been telling me. It's not often. But it is important to understand
or try to understand what your dog is telling you to do.
Claire, you're definitely not the only one to have these concerns before
getting the dog. You'll be fine. Remember to listen to your instructors
while in class especially when your dog is trying to tell you something.
Remember those things when you get home.
Hope that helps,

Marsha drenth
email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
Sent with my IPhone
Please note that this email communication has been sent using my iPhone. As
such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to mitigate errors.
Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary. 

> On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your dog will probably not tell you much of anything if he's off leash.
The leash and harness are pretty instrumental in communication between you
and your dog. When your dog is off leash, he is probably not working anyway.
> 
> I remember before I got my first dog that I wasn't sure how one would
coordinate the working of six legs and two brains. (In my case, maybe 1.5
brains at most.) Anyway, the legs aren't really a problem so much. The
brains sometimes are. Sometimes, you'll get into arguments with your dogs.
Just remember, sometimes, you're the one that's wrong. It's all OK though.
This is all stuff you learn in class and refine over the following months
and years. 
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Clare Westlund via nagdu 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>> 
>> afraid that I will miss something that the dog is trying to tell me 
>> when off leash. Thank you all for your guidance and advice! Clare Hi 
>> everyone! I am preparing to get my first dog next month and I had a 
>> couple questions. I am nervous about the adjustment from working with 
>> a cane two then using a dog? What was it like for you? I am nervous 
>> that I will not understand what the dog is trying to tell me when and 
>> and or out of harness? I don't want to interpret the body language or 
>> mannerism of the dog in a bad way? Since I am totally blind I am
>> 
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