[nagdu] Law Regarding Attacks on Service Dogs

Vivianna irishana at gmail.com
Fri Mar 21 01:57:12 UTC 2014


no no no, you got me all wrong.  it's not because i think she can't do something, it's because she is a brand new handler with a brand new dog.
i know that you can learn to use a dog just fine no problems.
sorry if i came across that way, i did not mean to at all.

Vivianna

On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:56 PM, The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just because someone is deafblind does not mean that they are lacking in awareness of their environment— I know because I'm Deafblind and am a dog handler and trainer.  Once you get to know your dog, and learn how to react to things, and learn their signals and how those signals feel through harness and leash, you can tell if a dog is coming.  And most of the time you will have time to do whatever it is you need to do.  
> This is obviously a choice Danielle has to make and this is something she may wish to discuss with whomever trained her dog.  The deafblindness just means she will have to do things differently— not that she cannot do them.  After all, isn't that what sighted people say about the blind— that we are at a bigger disadvantage or shouldn't do this or that because of blindness?  
> Deafblindness is the same— through the use of alternative techniques and forward thinking, we can do anyththing. 
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>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> well, don't expect the neighbors to do a single thing to contain their animals because, they won't.
>> if, however, you are using the dog at university every day then, you won't have to be working it out where those dogs are anyhow.
>> if you are deaf-blind then, it will be even worse because you won't even hear those dogs coming and, you will not be prepared.
>> just be well aware of what you are getting yourself into.  a dog is not a machine, it will react.  it may spin you around and off course at the least.
>> i understand why you think a dog will help you out at school, and i agree,  but, it won't out in a rural area with free running animals.
>> JMO.
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Vivianna
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am deaf-blind and am in college. This is my home environment when not in school. I will spend most of my time at school. I want a dog because I cannot always trust my hearing to tell me things. Not that the dogwill. dothis. but the dog will not move forward if there is an unknown danger to me because of my inability to hear. My Dad said that we could go around to our neighbors and explain that they need to keep their dogs under control. I do not live in city limits so that is why dogs are not on leash. Most of the dogs qobably won't attack my dog. However, there is always the possibility. 
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>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> well, i know i am brand new here but…
>>>> here goes…
>>>> i say tthe things that i am thinking and i am pretty blunt about it.
>>>> now, with that said; if, one of the first things you are thinking about, before you even get a guide dog is, what happens when it gets attacked by all of these loose dogs that live near me, why do you want a dog?  personally, i would not get a dog if i were living in that sort of area.  you will come home with a brand new, young, well trained animal but, in order to keep it that way you will need to work it nearly every day.  that means getting out there with loose dogs.
>>>> have you not been reading the posts about dogs killing each other right here on this list?
>>>> it gets even worse when you bring a new dog into the area that these dogs consider their territory.
>>>> i just don't think it's fair to put a brand new dog, well any working guide for that matter into that situation.  i would not work my own dog out in an area with a bunch of loose dogs.
>>>> all it takes is one mistake and either you are injured because your dog is so distracted or, the dog itself is harmed or so traumatized that it has to be retired.
>>>> i have known of several situations where guide dogs were attacked and had to be retired because they were traumatized by the attack.
>>>> i, myself, chose to use a long white cane for several years because i lived in places where there were loose dogs, packs of dogs, etc.  i was well aware of what could so very easily happen to my dog and chose to wait until i was in a living situation where i could utilize the dog in a much safer environment from free running dogs.  i do still have to deal with the ones on leashes, behind fences, and, yes, the occasional free running one and, that's enough for this team.
>>>> i don't mean to sound mean or arrogant but, i hope to just encourage you to think about the situation some.
>>>> 
>>>> Vivianna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 6:11 PM, "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Never heard of such a thing!
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danielle Burton" <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Law Regarding Attacks on Service Dogs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, everyone. Before I get my first guide dog this June I have a question regarding attacks on service dogs. I live in Kentucky and the law regarding attacks is not very clear. Can anyone tell me what the federal law is regarding attacks from other dogs on a service dq? Also, what is Kentucky's law regarding this? I live in an area where most of the neighbor's dogs run loose. I would like to address this issue beforehand. Sent from my iPhone
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