[nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
Elizabeth Campbell
batescampbell at gmail.com
Thu May 1 12:50:38 UTC 2014
Hi Raven,
I love the Celestial Seasonings name choice, pretty funny.
I guess what aggravates me most about people asking our dogs' names is that
the focus is on the dog, and not us. If I try not to let that bother me too
much, but if I am feeling particularly frustrated, I sometimes say something
like my dog and I are a team and so forth.
Liz and Gabe
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven Tolliver
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:24 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
Oh yes! It annoys me to no end when people ask what my dog's name is.
I just tell them his name is K, or the most comical one I've been using is
Celestial Seasonings. Got the idea from a woman whose golden's name is
Lipton. So cute. But I tell people Celestial Seasonings, and no one is
inclined to even call him. Probably 'cause they know I'm bs-ing them. Most
of my acquaintances and classmates here on campus don't even know the Golden
Guy's name.
On 4/29/14, minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was very strict about not letting anyone pet Viva when I first came
> home with her, but I've relaxed my stance since then. Obviously I
> don't let anyone touch her when we're working, but if we're just
> sitting somewhere and someone asks to pet her, I will generally let
> them. I do tell them that if she gets too excited, then the meet and
> greet is over. it's also a great way for me to teach her self-control
> and obedience since I'll make her lay down and stay.
>
> Minh
>
> On 4/29/14, The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com> wrote:
>> With Soleil, I have used petting as a practice time for self control.
>> She
>> loves people, and right at first, I knew that I was going to just
>> have to restrict all petting, or use the petting as an exercise.
>> Since I'm Deafblind, people tend to just pet because they are not
>> getting my attention with me by asking unless I'm with a hearing
>> person.
>> So if I have time to allow petting, I first tell her down. I tell the
>> person wanting to pet that she can only be pet in a down and that if
>> she gets up, they are to stop, I thank them for helping me with her
>> training, so they feel good. They pet her and then in mid pet I ask
>> her to come away and touch my hand and click and treat. She is a
>> lab, so would rather eat than lay and get petted. And her getting up
>> ends the session. If people pet without asking she will turn to me.
>> My coworkers and friends also help in this exercise as well.
>> Because I'm Deafblind and a lot of my friends are deafblind, and I
>> work with deafblind children, she has to learn to be touched without
>> coming unhinged with joy. Deafblind people are a pretty tactile lot
>> and if a deafblind child has never seen a guide dog, they can look at
>> her-- with their
>> hands--
>> and learn. So far, Soleil's doing really well!
>>
>> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:41 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Generally I just say, "No, but thank you for asking." I smile and
>>> make it seem like them asking was a wonderful thing. Then I move
>>> on. Standing there will encourage a discussion or debate or
>>> whatever, moving on indicates that you don't want to discuss your no
>>> petting rule and it also reinforces that you need to get stuff done
>>> and don't have time for petting.
>>>
>>> I do allow petting on occasion. If I do I let the person know it's
>>> up to Monty if he wants to be petted. I give Monty his release cue
>>> and let him approach if he wants. Usually he will give the person a
>>> perfunctory sniff and he's done. Every now and then he will back
>>> away from the person, which is kind of embarrassing, but they get it
>>> that he doesn't want to be petted. He's not very into meet and greet
>>> with people though, so this works.
>>>
>>> Last week I was in the grocery store and there was a Mom with about
>>> four kids. The kids wanted to pet Monty and asked their Mom.
>>> Usually parents just say the dog is working and leave it alone, but
>>> this Mom went on a complete tirade. I thought the kids were
>>> perfectly well behaved in asking their Mom first if they could
>>> approach me to ask if they could pet, but Mom really lit into them.
>>> Then she was on to another topic and how horrible the kids were and
>>> on and on and on. So about four isles later I asked one of the
>>> kids if he would like to pet the dog. It made the kids day. I
>>> can't remember the last time I've offered petting to a kid, but I
>>> really felt bad for them.
>>>
>>> When I talk to people about guide dogs or if I'm doing a
>>> presentation or something, I always stress that dogs are different
>>> and people are different, but asking is always okay. the answer
>>> might be no but politely asking and respecting the answer is good.
>>> It's interesting that I rarely have issues with kids. It's adults
>>> that have issues with self control.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darla Rogers
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:36 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>
>>> Thank you Raven and Michael; I believe, and several others have also
>>> states this practice, just not to allow it while we are out working.
>>> I don't owe the general public anything; if they want to pet a dog,
>>> the shelters are crying for volunteers to socialize their dogs; on
>>> the other hand, if it raises money for my school. <tongue firmly in
>>> cheek> Very Gratefully, Darla & Handsome Huck
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>>> Hingson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:40 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I do not permit anyone to pet Africa while she is in harness. If
>>> people want to pet her and I have the time I will remove her harness
>>> and then allow petting. If I do not have time I politely explain
>>> that while the harness is on she is working and cannot be petted and
>>> that I do not have time to remove it now. Especially when people go
>>> along with my wishes I thank them very much. If people still insist
>>> on petting Africa I will get more stern.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla
>>> Rogers
>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:22 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Handsome Huck is a people magnet and peo9ple are
>>> magnets for him; there is some petting--last time going through a
>>> revolving door--and I used to let him sit and be petted, but I don't
>>> believe this is in the best interest of our working relationship?
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Strategies? Explanations?
>>>
>>> Darla & Mister Socialite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darla J. Rogers
>>>
>>> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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