[nagdu] GDB timeout

Tue May 13 01:49:59 UTC 2014

I don't really do the timeout for everything, but I definitely stop if I
know that Lexia is on a mission  to find something. Sometimes, she pulls in
a certain way in her harness, and I know that she is up to something. I make
her halt. If that is enough, we start again. If necessary, I will make her
heel and sit.

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandy Pinder via
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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB timeout

Hi All,
My trainer did a lot of clicker training and implemented the stop do a 180
and stop and sit for a while. The more I correct pinta over a dog
distraction, which is her Achilles Heal, the more worked up she gets. I
began employing the time out but I would speak to her while doing it. After
reading this I just stop grab her collar and say nothing, this gets her
attention quicker. I travel in Manhattan often and honestly as much as
people like to be annoyed haven't really had anyone yell at me for stopping.
Construction zone not the best place to stop, Time Square  no, but a
moderately crowded sidewalk no problem Manhattan sidewalks are wide enough
for people to go around. As someone said it is much less safe when I have
Pinta chasing a dog down the sidewalk. Fortunatley also in the city there
are a lot of people who are savvy with new methods of training and know
exactly what I'm doing when I stop and do this and I don't get the, oh my
gosh your killing the dog comments. I also employed this when she follows
people and speeds up. I know she isn't paying attention to me but chasing he
person down. So I tell them to keep going, I stop and drop the handle and
stand there. At first I thought, this is going to make her speed up because
now they are way ahead. However, it worked. She learned, you know what? I'm
not getting closer to that person the faster I go. She is also very
enthusiastic when I tell her to find something and will speed up to get it
like said stairs or escalator is going to magically disappear if we don't
get there right now. So when she does this I stop for a few seconds and
proceed. If this means people on a platform go around me so be it. I read
this in a Karen Prior book I was reading. I don't want to correct her
because yes indeed I do want those steps we just don't need to get to them
at 90 miles an hour, we are already very fast walkers! Very new prospectives
that sound like they aren't going to work, but as all have said it gives
both parties a chance to calm down.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Cole
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 12:51 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB timeout

Believe me I'm reading all this good stuff and surely will try it on leone.
it might just help in a distraction situation.

On 5/7/14, Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com> wrote:
> Yay! What is really great about using the time out is that once the 
> dog figures out that's what you're going to do, the dog decides in 
> advance it will be no fun. At least, that is how it has worked with 
> Mitzi on leash and in harness and with the monster mutt Zay for loose 
> leash. It has been far more effective than all the nagging and pulling 
> and whatnot I did at first with my stubborn poodle thing. So with 
> another poodle thing on the horizon, I'm looking forward to starting 
> out using that simple technique from the get-go. /smile/
>
> Tami
>
> On 05/07/2014 07:32 AM, Karyn & Thane wrote:
>> WOW This is amazing! I have never ever done it like this before where 
>> you drop the handle and hold the collar (not the leash)
>>
>> My partnership with Thane is undergoing really big changes with 
>> further training and teaching Thane that we don't have to race 
>> through life to avoid me being harmed by fragrance/ chemicals, etc 
>> One of the biggest issues is of course in harness pull as we slow 
>> down. He has been going fast for what about 5 1/2 yrs now and all of 
>> a sudden with a Border Collie, the rules of the game have changed LOL
>>
>> Last night I did this once and it was so amazing! i will definitely 
>> keep this in my repertoire for anytime we both need a chilling (as it 
>> helped me a lot too)
>>
>> Karyn and Thane
>>
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