[nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well

Thu May 15 14:53:01 UTC 2014

My boss has not said what he is afraid of, but I would think that he does want to make sure that the people ywho come to the club to work out are not going to get themselves bit. Yes I know that guide dogs are very well trained, and I do think that my boss would like the dog, he is a dog person himself. I think the big reason is that Lifetime has corporate standards, and they want the club to have a certain look to it. Having a crate in plain sight on the public would not quite be in keeping with their look. 
To me this is an opportunity to show that they are truly a company that believes in equal opportunity for people with disabilities. 
I have thought about looking into transferring to a different club, but I like this club, it is small and I know the people, and the bus service is good, and my hours are party good to. 

I would never lie to my school, and if they ask me about my work I would tell them. I was just trying to decide if I should just bring it up without being asked. Let's agress the 450lb gorilla in the corner. 
Barb 

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From: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
To: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:44:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well 

Wesley, just because things are a certain way for you does not that they are 
that way for everyone. Did you get to the message about the conditions in 
the laundry room before you replied? If not, you might want to consider 
reading the entire thread before replying. 
I have a friend who works at the Lighthouse in Seattle. I don't remember 
what she does, but, whatever it is, it is not safe for her guide dog to be 
with her. They have a kennel area for guide dogs. Of course, this is a 
little different because the employer is more prepared for the situation, 
but the point still remains that our dogs cannot always be with us we work 
if the environment is dangerous for a dog. 
Barb, you need to tell the school what is going on. Don't lie. And, yes, 
lying includes withholding information. What's going to happen when the 
problem escalates after you get the dog, and, when it is really bad, either 
the school somehow finds out or you finally decide to get them involved? You 
should not be afraid to work with the school. Your boss should listen to 
you, but, sadly, sometimes, people won't listen unless they think that the 
person telling has knowledge and authority. Maybe you could talk to the 
school and work out what you are going to tell your boss. Then, you could 
take someone from the school with you when you talk to your boss. You could 
do the talking, but, if your boss tries to say that you don't know what you 
are talking about or something like that, the person from the school could 
back you up. Also, is your boss more afraid for the people or for the dog? I 
highly doubt that a guide dog would growl or bark at someone or try to bite. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wesley. via nagdu 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:06 PM 
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well 

Okay, I have a couple of questions. First, what makes them think that they 
have the right to expect a service dog to be crated at all? Second, what 
makes them think that they have the right to separate you from your service 
dog? 

I'm an IT professional and my dog is trained to stay quietly under the desk 
where I am working. When I move around the office my dog goes with me. I 
wasn't aware that there was any law allowing an employer to require any 
other arrangements. 

Wesley. 

-------- Original message -------- 
From: Darla Rogers via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Date:05/14/2014 3:21 AM (GMT-07:00) 
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well 

Dear Barb, 

could you please refresh my memory as to exactly where you work? I doubt my 
answers/advice would be better, but I would rather have the whole picture. 
With Empathy, 
Darla 

-----Original Message----- 
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of via nagdu 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:30 AM 
To: Name, Full 
Subject: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well 

Hi, 
I will be having my interview for my guide dog school in a couple of weeks. 
I have a new boss, and when he found out that I was looking into getting a 
service dog, he said I could put him in the back stair way. that is a fire 
exit and the fire department would give them a big fine if they came in and 
found a dog crated in the back. The best place is right outside the door to 
the laundry room where I do much of my work, I would pass the dog many times 
in the day, plus I can keep track of what is going on. I know the big 
problem with that spot is that it is in clear view of the public, in fact if 
someone wanted to they could go up to the crate. I get it, the safety thing 
and all, and that even if I put a nice cover over the crate, it will not be 
in keeping with how they run things. I do believe that fore the most part 
everyone would leave the dog along, but I guess all's you need is one dummy 
and everything is turned upside down. 
I feel I should talk to the gal when she comes to do the interview, and see 
what she has to say, but I could blow all my chances of getting a dog 
because of it. 
I just don't know how to do this. 

Barb 
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