[nagdu] guide dog school problem

Star Gazer via nagdu nagdu at nfbnet.org
Thu May 15 19:37:38 UTC 2014 

Add to this that people will expect your dog to be a fully functional guide,
and you to be a fully functional handler. 
You don't have that dynamic in play when you get a puppy. 
I've said it before, and I'll say it now, having a new baby is easier then
getting your first guide dog. 


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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:03 AM
To: Name, Full
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem

Well said, and very good point. 
To me getting a new guide is like getting a new puppy, you have to take time
to get to know each other, how each other works and there needs. You need to
bond, and the dog needs to know that you are one he is to work with, and not
every other person who comes by. the big thing I believe is that the dog
needs to know that you are the boss, and not to pay attention to everyone
else. 

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From: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:35:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem 

John, 

A couple of things. First, some of the things that you are telling us are
not making sense and are contradicting each other. What exactly has
happened, in order, with applications and acceptance? 
Second, if there is a possibility that you might go to get a dog in August,
you really need to stop and think this over more. Yes, things that cannot be
avoided happen, and colleges make exceptions, but I feel that this is
different. You cannot miss four weeks of a class and still pass it, at least
not with a half way decent grade, unless it's a class where there is only
one class a week with a really light work load. Even if you can retake the
class, do you really want to have to? Retaking a class often means paying
for more time at college--more money that people probably don't want to
spend. Even if you did somehow work out where you could take that time off,
it still is not a good idea. You will need time to bond with your dog, and
college is not the place to do it. Even if you know the campus, there is
going to be a lot to get used to for the dog. The first few months that you
are with the dog, it is really important that you and only you handle the
dog. Students at college don't always respect the "don't pet my dog" rules,
particularly if they are going through pet withdrawal. Also, if you have
different classes at different times on different days, the
feeding/relieving schedule may not be the same every day. If at all
possible, it's much better to start where you can feed and relieve on a
consistent schedule. There are many other reasons. In short, JMHO, if you
somehow work out that you can get a dog in August and then immediately go
back to college, I think that you will be hurting both your relation with
your dog and your education--haste makes waste. 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:51 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem 

Hi,
I haven't been excepted to any of the Guide Dog Training schools. 
The forms for the Excelerated mobility training program are being sent to me
in the mail. 
The application for the program is no longer available on the leader dog
website. 
I hope to hear from you soon. 
Sincerely,
John Sanders 



-----Original Message-----
From: Jessiaca Evans via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem 

Have you been excepted to any of the Geico schools yet? And is the leader
dog program with the cane? Also, you might again want to talk to an advisor
and see if he/she can help you! 

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> On May 14, 2014, at 3:38 PM, Melissa R Green via nagdu 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote: 
> 
> that is a good point. I would add that college classes, especially the 
> required ones fill up fast and there is usually a waiting list. I 
> would talk with the guide dog program and see if there are other 
> options. May be going during semester break might be an option. It is 
> very risky for you with college classes and financial aid. Good luck 
> with your decision.
> Melissa R Green and Pj
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> 
> You don't want to do it this way. You'll be behind in the class, and 
> you won't learn whatever it is you are taking the class to learn.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:09 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> Hi,
> I don't know. 
> I talked with the college today and they said that it's up to the 
> instructer as to whether or not I get dropped from the class.
> The only thing I can do now is ask my instructer whether or not if I 
> could still be in class but be put on hold untill I get back from my 
> guide dog training.
> I hope to hear from you soon. 
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Star Gazer via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:04 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users' 
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> Is the college's policy to keep students from screwing around? I ask 
> because people do have life events happen that the school just has to 
> deal with.
> I'd at least go talk to someone in charge and have a conversation. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha via 
> nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> Well, there's nothing you can do about your college's policy, so the 
> best you can do is to see whether the guide dog schools can speed up 
> your application process and get you into a class sooner. If not, you 
> might have to wait until winter break or summer to get your dog.
> 
>> On 5/13/14, sheila via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
>> I'm not sure that you can do anything about school policy as relating 
>> to being dropped from class. One option would be to wait until next 
>> summer to get a dog if you can't get in soon enough to still take 
>> your college classes because you would probably need adjustment time 
>> with your new dog before entering such an environment.
>>> On 5/13/2014 5:23 PM, via nagdu wrote: 
>>> Hi,
>>> I do apologize if I already had posted this to the list already. 
>>> Please forgive me for reposting but, I just submitted my application 
>>> to Guide Dogs of America and to one of the other Guide Dog Training
> school. 
>>> From what it sounds like; if I were to get excepted in to one of the 
>>> school's guide dog training programs, I would have to go out to the 
>>> school in August.
>>> Unfortunetly, that's when I start college classes. 
>>> The college that I'm going to attend classes at has a policy. There 
>>> policy is that if I miss three concecutive days of class, I would 
>>> get dropped from the class.
>>> And I don't want to do that. 
>>> How should I go about fixing this? 
>>> I hope to hear from you soon. 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> John Sanders
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