[nagdu] Stressed and confused

Katie Crocker via nagdu nagdu at nfbnet.org
Thu May 29 02:14:32 UTC 2014 

Yes, I've also used Rescue Remedy for guides when they were anxious.  You can also use it in water or food.  I think it's four drops a dose?  

I've also used it for myself, right before giving a speech or any kind of stressful situation.  It can't hurt; give it 20 minutes before travel.

Prayers are with you.  Let us know how it goes.

Katie and Jetty

-- Katie Crocker --

> On May 28, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Shannon Dyer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Rescue Remedy is awesome stuff! My previous guide hated flying, so I gave her a bit of it before we boarded an airplane. It took the edge off just enough to make her comfortable. She wasn't overly sleepy or otherwise affected.
> 
> Also, I got a bottle that sprayed, rather than the dropper. I found it easier to administer that way.
> 
> Shannon and the Acelet
>> On May 28, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Vivianna via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> you know i just had a great idea.  i would try rescue remedy on her.  and, on yourself too.
>> it's a bach flower remedy that works wonders for stress.
>> i have used on myself, dog, horse, goat, etc.  amazing stuff.
>> very easily obtained, even some walmarts have it as well as any healthfood store.
>> just put a couple drops in her mouth before getting on the bus or in a car.please be aware that the dropper has a glass tip.  lol.  
>> i carry around a bottle of the stuff in my purse.  my dog used to have panic attacks on airplanes.  not any more, whew.  
>> let me know if it works.
>> 
>> Vivianna
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2014, at 9:59 AM, via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> She still whines cars. From what I know. I'm not taking cars a lot. But the three times I was in one, she did. I will find out this weekend when my friend comes and picks me up and takes me to her house.
>>> AmandaHi, sorry for not getting my name earlier.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> السلام عليكم 
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>>> 
>>>> On May 28, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> When Jenny and I first did training in our local area, she had a similar reaction to our LRT (commuter train) system.  buses? Fine.  Train... she shook and whined the whole trip, and at each stop tried to bolt off.  The trainer was quite concerned about this behavior, so we took a whole training day to work on it... we got on the train at the end of the line and just worked with her on it.  She found the door to get on the train? She got rewarded.  Found a seat? reward.  Each stop she stayed seated? Reward.  Got up calmly when told to, found the door, and sat or stood calmly? Reward. Didn't rush off? reward.  I think I went through like 20 treats that first trip alone.
>>>> Then we walked around downtown, did some shopping, had  a coffee, whatever, then went back down to the trains, reducing the reward incrementally.  Now she takes the train like it's no big deal.
>>>> 
>>>> All this to say, don't give up.  I know some of what you're going through.  Does she still whine in cars?
>>>> 
>>>> As for the stool, my guess is that she's anxious about this and is relieving as a way of expelling the anxiety and energy associated with it.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not from Florida, but is it possible that say an air-conditioner or something else is blowing on her?  Perhaps the concentrated air is uncomfortable and whining is the only way she can let you know?
>>>> 
>>>> Just throwing it out there.
>>>> 
>>>> Daryl
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>>>> From: via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tue, 27 May 2014 19:57:51 -0600 (MDT)
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Stressed and confused
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. Well, we did ride the train and bus once when at school.
>>>> She seemed to do ok. She did whine in the train though, but not on the bus. She rarely whined in the vans when going to the downtonw lounge for practice routes.
>>>> A little quiet was enough there. We even had a hour ride to NY and she didn't even make a noise.
>>>> I have tried to give her treats when she is quiet, saying she is a good girl. She is wearing the gentle leader.
>>>> I tried petting her head or placing my hand on her head. Her whining starts out quiet, but gets louder and louder.
>>>> Today I got off a mile before my actual stop so she would stop, then she had to relieve and it was a very soft stool. Needless to say, I relieved her before we left. Her stools are generally normal, once in the morning. However, whenever getting off the bus, she has had to poop and everytime, it has been soft.
>>>> I even mixed up some peanut butter and kibble in a kong and froze it, thinking I would take it on my ride tommorrow, however, I am really doubting if I am going to take her, until the instructor comes. I generallly walk a lot of places. I will just try and avoid transportation, which is going to be interesting, since it is getting hotter and hotter here in Daytona Beach.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> On May 27, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was the dog familiarized with riding public transportation at all
>>>>> during her training? Did you guys ride public transport during your
>>>>> training together? If not, why not? And if so, did this problem come
>>>>> up at the time?
>>>>> Something is stressing your dog out, maybe the noise or vibration of
>>>>> the engine--something. If she was not previously familiarized with
>>>>> public transport, or the type you're taking, then these long rides are
>>>>> too much for her to handle.
>>>>> Please tell us exactly what you have tried so that we can help you
>>>>> better. It's possible that you or your school may have missed
>>>>> something. We might be able to help you tweak your techniques or offer
>>>>> ones you haven't tried.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/27/14, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> How long have you had the dog? It could be that if you just talk softly to
>>>>>> her? Maybe after she has ridden a few times it will start to subside. I
>>>>>> would say that you have to try to relax because she will sense your anxiety,
>>>>>> and that won't improve on hers. I know this can be more easily said than
>>>>>> done sometimes, but it may be your only choice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 27, 2014, at 7:32 PM, via nagdu wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I do not know what to do. I am so stressed. Today I went on the public
>>>>>>> bus, and Eileen whined the whole time. I got off and walked alot and I
>>>>>>> walked her a lot, I had to take the bus again, same thing.
>>>>>>> I have tried everything and I'm called the school. Nothing seems to be
>>>>>>> working. Seems just to be getting worse. I don't know what to do. I'm so
>>>>>>> confused. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow that is 40 minutes away
>>>>>>> and I dont know if I should take her on the medical transportation or not.
>>>>>>> I'm so nervous and scared  that she is going to wine again and for 40
>>>>>>> minutes it's going to be a headache.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> السلام عليكم
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