[nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport

Thu May 29 03:06:08 UTC 2014

I will be headed to Seatle on Sunday and don't intend to relieve
Dallas while I'm in the airports. Once we get to our destination,
absolutely, but I cannot stress about finding a relief area before we
get on the plane or immediately after we deplane. I was taught a lot
at TSE about how to prep my dog for a trip like this. I will, however,
be relieving Dallas on the way back because we have a layover in
Detroit and will be taking a red eye jet home at 11 Pacific time, so
I'll try to keep him as comfortable as possible. Speaking from a
physiological perspective, dogs' bodies, and out own, in fact, are
obviously more active when awake. So, while it is possible for a dog
to hold its bladder for long periods of time, that time is shrunken if
the dog is awake, because its body needs more nutrients and its
kidneys are more active when awake.
JMT,
Aleeha and Dallas

On 5/28/14, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I almost never relieve my dogs on a trip. We do much as Michael has stated.
>
> Cindy
>
> On May 28, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Michael Hingson via nagdu wrote:
>
>> Hi Kristen and all,
>>
>> Go in a regular bathroom?  It does sounds as if someone in Denver needs
>> some
>> educating.
>>
>> It is not the responsibility of anyone else to take your dog outside to
>> relieve.  One possible option would be to take you outside inside the
>> security area, but there may or may not be people to do this, and the
>> kind
>> of area on which your dog is use to relieving may not be available.
>>
>> I think it is appropriate to make one additional observation.  In my
>> experience most guide dog schools discuss preparing to take a dog on a
>> trip.
>> We discuss with instructors how to cut down on water before traveling.
>> We
>> are also told that it might be wise to not give our dogs a meal before
>> traveling if the dog is prone to needing to relieve.  All this is to say
>> that with proper preparation a healthy dog should be able to go six to
>> eight
>> hours without relieving.
>>
>> We can make life more stressful by assuming that our dogs need to go out
>> at
>> every stop.  By doing this the dogs come to expect the trip out and we
>> get
>> upset when we can't take our dogs outside to relieve.  I have taken
>> several
>> guide dogs on long trips without any need to relieve, but I worked to
>> train
>> the dogs to expect this and I helped by insuring that their bladders and
>> other parts were as empty as possible before leaving home or by taking
>> advantage of a relieving area at the airport before going through
>> Security.
>>
>> As one instructor put it to me once, "keep in mind that your dogs sleep
>> through the night and so they can go long periods of time without
>> relieving
>> if you set the stage".  Let me be clear.  Some dogs may have health
>> issues
>> and do need to relieve more often.  However, the average dog can go for
>> fairly long to very long times without the need to relieve.  I have taken
>> dogs to New Zealand, Korea, Japan and the Netherlands without any stop to
>> relieve. I travel across the United States several times a month and
>> never
>> look for a relief area during a lay-over except to know where they are if
>> available in case of a future emergency.
>>
>> You must do your part and you must instill confidence in the dog and
>> yourself, but it can be done.  I hope my thoughts help.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristen via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 02:12 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
>>
>> I did have an issue with that airport about a month ago. We had a layover
>> there, and they told us that we wouldn't be able to get past security
>> after
>> taking Corvette outside (they had no inside
>> area) and have time to make our flight. They also didn't offer to take
>> him
>> out for me and said that he should hold it or be able to go in a regular
>> bathroom. (He did end up holding it for about 6 hours that day.) Maybe
>> you'll have better luck!
>> --
>> Kristen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: sheila via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 28 May 2014 14:34:36 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
>>
>> okay that is good. I won't borrow trouble. I've never had trouble in
>> other
>> airports so I'll assume that I won't and just handle things if they come
>> up.
>> On 5/28/2014 2:06 PM, Sherry Gomes via nagdu wrote:
>> I just flew in and out of Denver when I went to and returned from GDB. I
>> was  never put in any separate sort of room. I had some trouble with
>> ground
>> assistance on the return but that was only with one person.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] denver airport
>>
>>                   denver airport        has anyone had any
>> trouble when
>> flying out of the denver airport as far as being put is a separate room
>> instead of near or at the departing gate?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> sheila leigland
>>
>>
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