[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 116, Issue 9

Chenelle Hancock filmchenelle1977 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 9 16:07:56 UTC 2014


Hello Lisa,
This is Chenelle I am a new guy dog user and my guy dogs name is Bono.
I work my dog five days a week with two days off now if it's raining during the week like on a Tuesday for instants, then I will work him either Saturday or Sunday like today I'm going to work him because I worked for days this week out of seven he's not even two yet so

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>   1. Class Friday (Tracy Carcione)
>   2. Re: Class Friday (Dan Weiner)
>   3. does anyone know... (Julie J.)
>   4. Re: does anyone know... (Marion Gwizdala)
>   5. Re: puppy raising in college dorms (Tami Jarvis)
>   6. Re: does anyone know... (Julie J.)
>   7. Re: puppy raising in college dorms (Michael Hingson)
>   8. How often does a dog have to work? (Lisa)
>   9. Re: Class Friday (debby phillips)
>  10. Re: puppy raising in college dorms (debby phillips)
>  11. Re: How often does a dog have to work? (Larry D Keeler)
>  12. Re: How often does a dog have to work? (debby phillips)
>  13. Re: How often does a dog have to work? (Danielle Sykora)
>  14. Re: i'm getting my first guide! (Fatmir Seremeti)
>  15. Re: How often does a dog have to work? (Becky Frankeberger)
>  16. Re: i'm getting my first guide! (Danielle Burton)
>  17. Re: How often does a dog have to work? (Nicole Torcolini)
>  18. Re: puppy raising in college dorms (Nicole Torcolini)
>  19. Re: i'm getting my first guide! (debby phillips)
>  20. Re: How often does a dog have to work? (debby phillips)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:03:54 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Class Friday
> Message-ID: <bde8fd2ffa9f72c49218daf4f2e02ca0.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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> Friday was cold and windy.  In the morning, we walked around town a bit,
> then went to the bakery for coffee and danish.  Krokus was veray good
> about lying under the table, despite crumbs around.  In the afternoon, we
> walked on a narrow sidewalk, through a park with squirrels, and shopped in
> a department store, with escalators, Walmart, with stuff in the aisles and
> people to dodge, and the grocery store.  Krokus did great.  He loves his
> food, but was very good about walkin past lots of it.
> He gets the slows when he's in the lead, but, when my partner passes us,
> he picks it up a bit.  Soon we'll be home, and he'll be on his own, so
> we'll see.  The person who trained him will be doing our home training, so
> she should have some ideas, if we're stricken with Pocus Krokus.
> Friday, I also paid my bill for stuff I purchased, and the measly 50
> dollars for my fine boy.
> 
> Today, we head into New York.  Krokus seems a bit tired, so I hope he's up
> to it.
> Tonight, we're planning a wine and dog massage party.
> Tracy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 08:50:23 -0500
> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>, "'NAGDU Mailing List,
>    the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Class Friday
> Message-ID: <201411081350.sA8DoOA5012203 at mail42c28.carrierzone.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> So will you be massaging the wine or just the dogs?--smile
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 8:04 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Class Friday
> 
> Friday was cold and windy.  In the morning, we walked around town a bit,
> then went to the bakery for coffee and danish.  Krokus was veray good about
> lying under the table, despite crumbs around.  In the afternoon, we walked
> on a narrow sidewalk, through a park with squirrels, and shopped in a
> department store, with escalators, Walmart, with stuff in the aisles and
> people to dodge, and the grocery store.  Krokus did great.  He loves his
> food, but was very good about walkin past lots of it.
> He gets the slows when he's in the lead, but, when my partner passes us, he
> picks it up a bit.  Soon we'll be home, and he'll be on his own, so we'll
> see.  The person who trained him will be doing our home training, so she
> should have some ideas, if we're stricken with Pocus Krokus.
> Friday, I also paid my bill for stuff I purchased, and the measly 50 dollars
> for my fine boy.
> 
> Today, we head into New York.  Krokus seems a bit tired, so I hope he's up
> to it.
> Tonight, we're planning a wine and dog massage party.
> Tracy
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:48:29 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] does anyone know...
> Message-ID: <AFEE7EB64E0541E5BE3ED65DECBFF33E at JuliePC>
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> how much guide dog instructors make per hour or year?  I?m specifically meaning the person who trains the dogs as well as works with blind people on how to work with the dog.  Estimates or ranges of salary are  very welcome and appreciated!
> 
> Thanks!
> Julie
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 11:30:11 -0500
> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> To: "'Julie J.'" <julielj at neb.rr.com>,    "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users'"    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] does anyone know...
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> Julie,
> 
>    I was doing some grant research and found a previous grant to a guide dog training program in California for $75,000 to hire a guide dog trainer for one year. This may have also included a benefits package figured into the salary amount. HTH!
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J. via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 10:48 AM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: [nagdu] does anyone know...
> 
> how much guide dog instructors make per hour or year?  I?m specifically meaning the person who trains the dogs as well as works with blind people on how to work with the dog.  Estimates or ranges of salary are  very welcome and appreciated!
> 
> Thanks!
> Julie
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:06:44 -0800
> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> To: Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
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> Alyssa,
> 
> You are correct. Some states have laws that allow for access for SDIT, 
> but not all. Whether the state in question has such a law and whether it 
> would apply to a college dorm is something your friend could research.
> 
> As for the puppy not causing any problems... Well, I guess the puppy 
> raiser -- or the program, if there is one involved -- could offer some 
> sort of guarantee that they will take responsibility for any problems 
> the puppy causes. /lol/ Granted, the amount of time and energy and 
> thought spent on a trainee over and above what one would spend on a pet 
> does make for a pretty well-behaved, not-as-destructive pup, but... It's 
> still a puppy and will do puppy things, some of which may be unfriendly 
> to carpets and other property.
> 
> I guess what I'm saying is that if I were in charge of a college dorm 
> and a college student came to me and promised a puppy wouldn't cause any 
> problems, I would not thinking highly of that student's judgment in 
> general. If the student had a plan to deal with the puppy responsibly to 
> mitigate the potential for damage and to pay up when damage happens, as 
> well as to limit disruption to the other dorm residents and all that 
> jazz, I would listen more attentively.
> 
> Let us know how your friend approaches the matter and what happens. 
> Inquiring minds, and all that. /smile/
> 
> Tami
> 
>> On 11/07/2014 08:19 PM, Alyssa via nagdu wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Unfortunately, I believe this is true. The ADA doesn't really apply to service dogs in training. I believe they are considered as pets. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
>> Alyssa a
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Danielle Sykora via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if any of you have raised a puppy to be a service dog
>>> while living in a college dorm. If so, have you encountered any
>>> opposition from your school and how did you convince them that the
>>> puppy would not cause any problems? I am asking because my sister
>>> wants to raise a guide dog puppy but her school told her they don't
>>> allow puppies in training in the dorms.
>>> hope this is not off topic.
>>> Danielle and Thai
>>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:31:05 -0600
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] does anyone know...
> Message-ID: <8B630BD01CC34CA6BDE55852375CBB1E at JuliePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
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> 
> thanks!  that's a bit more than I thought, so I'm glad I asked.  I tried 
> Google, but couldn't find any figures from the U.S.
> 
> Thanks!
> Julie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 10:30 AM
> To: 'Julie J.' ; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
> Users'
> Subject: RE: [nagdu] does anyone know...
> 
> Julie,
> 
> I was doing some grant research and found a previous grant to a guide dog 
> training program in California for $75,000 to hire a guide dog trainer for 
> one year. This may have also included a benefits package figured into the 
> salary amount. HTH!
> 
> Marion
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J. via 
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 10:48 AM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: [nagdu] does anyone know...
> 
> how much guide dog instructors make per hour or year?  I?m specifically
> meaning the person who trains the dogs as well as works with blind people on 
> how to work with the dog.  Estimates or ranges of salary are  very welcome 
> and appreciated!
> 
> Thanks!
> Julie
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 09:44:27 -0800
> From: "Michael Hingson" <info at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'Tami Jarvis'" <tami at poodlemutt.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
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> 
> There is at least one college, Hartwick College, that has its own puppy
> raising club.  Raising guide dog puppies has become a project of Hartwick
> students in New York.  The last I heard the students were raising 12 puppies
> on the campus. 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 09:07 AM
> To: Alyssa; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
> 
> Alyssa,
> 
> You are correct. Some states have laws that allow for access for SDIT, but
> not all. Whether the state in question has such a law and whether it would
> apply to a college dorm is something your friend could research.
> 
> As for the puppy not causing any problems... Well, I guess the puppy raiser
> -- or the program, if there is one involved -- could offer some sort of
> guarantee that they will take responsibility for any problems the puppy
> causes. /lol/ Granted, the amount of time and energy and thought spent on a
> trainee over and above what one would spend on a pet does make for a pretty
> well-behaved, not-as-destructive pup, but... It's still a puppy and will do
> puppy things, some of which may be unfriendly to carpets and other property.
> 
> I guess what I'm saying is that if I were in charge of a college dorm and a
> college student came to me and promised a puppy wouldn't cause any problems,
> I would not thinking highly of that student's judgment in general. If the
> student had a plan to deal with the puppy responsibly to mitigate the
> potential for damage and to pay up when damage happens, as well as to limit
> disruption to the other dorm residents and all that jazz, I would listen
> more attentively.
> 
> Let us know how your friend approaches the matter and what happens. 
> Inquiring minds, and all that. /smile/
> 
> Tami
> 
>> On 11/07/2014 08:19 PM, Alyssa via nagdu wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Unfortunately, I believe this is true. The ADA doesn't really apply to
> service dogs in training. I believe they are considered as pets. Someone
> correct me if I'm wrong.
>> Alyssa a
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Danielle Sykora via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if any of you have raised a puppy to be a service dog 
>>> while living in a college dorm. If so, have you encountered any 
>>> opposition from your school and how did you convince them that the 
>>> puppy would not cause any problems? I am asking because my sister 
>>> wants to raise a guide dog puppy but her school told her they don't 
>>> allow puppies in training in the dorms.
>>> hope this is not off topic.
>>> Danielle and Thai
>>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:40:12 +0100
> From: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Hey everyone!
> 
> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
> 
> How often does a guide dog have to work?
> 
> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be 
> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry, 
> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often 
> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play 
> time and paying attention to it of course.
> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work 
> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog 
> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or 
> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
> Just curious.
> 
> best
> Lisa 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:14:42 -0800
> From: debby phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Class Friday
> Message-ID: <545e87c6.e6bf440a.26a9.39dd at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Wow Tracy, sounds like fun! You will probably be ready for a 
> massage yourself.  (Grin).  I did take advantage of the 
> opportunity to have a massage myself while I was there at TSE.  
> It was very nice, and Neena settled right down and was good so 
> that I could enjoy myself.  Of course, I wouldn't be able to do 
> it now, since I got laid off work.  But I was glad I could do 
> that.  Have fun at your wine and dog massage party tonight.    
> Peace,    Debby and Neena
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:14:41 -0800
> From: debby phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
> Message-ID: <545e87c5.e6bf440a.26a9.39db at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> I remember being on a list (and I sure wish I remembered what 
> list).  There were some college students that had been raising 
> pups for a while for The Seeing Eye, I think.  They (or the 
> person sending the emails, wrote a lot about what was happening 
> with the pups and all.  You might contact Seeing Eye or some of 
> the other schools to see if they have current raisers who are in 
> college.    Peace,    Debby and Neena
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:17:59 -0500
> From: "Larry D Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>, "NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> 
> It probably depends on the dog and the handler. I would guess that a couple 
> of times a week should be good. I would think that if you don't work your 
> dog regularily, you ojr the dog might forget the finer points. They 
> certainly like to work with us and go where we go. I usually work Holly most 
> days at least a little. But, sometimes she stays home for some reason. 
> Usually, weather related but, sometimes, I just want to take a short walk 
> without her. I would deffintely work your dog at least once a week and 
> probably more often.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lisa via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 2:40 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> 
> 
>> Hey everyone!
>> 
>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>> 
>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>> 
>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be 
>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry, 
>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often 
>> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play 
>> time and paying attention to it of course.
>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work 
>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog 
>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or 
>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>> Just curious.
>> 
>> best
>> Lisa
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:41:15 -0800
> From: debby phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: Lisa <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>, "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National
>    Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,    nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> Message-ID: <545e8dff.0125460a.3d3f.40ec at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Hey Lisa, great question.  Every dog is different of course, so 
> it may depend on your individual dog, and certainly if you have 
> an injury and you are in pain walking or need time for an ankle, 
> knee or leg to heal, you should do that.  I try to do something 
> every day, even if it's not walking a huge distance.  But I do 
> give my dog one total day off a week if I can.  I need a day off 
> from routine, so I figure my dog might, too.  In the winter my 
> dogs have probably gotten less work, especially since I live on 
> the east side of Washington state where there's snow and ice.  I 
> didn't grow up with snow and ice, mostly rain and cold, and I 
> must say that the older I get the more anxious ice, especially 
> makes me.  And yes, I know, I can get things to put on my shoes 
> but that doesn't make me any less anxious.
> 
> I get depressed if I'm indoors too much, so even when I don't 
> feel like getting out there in the cold bluster of winter I make 
> myself do it because it does make me feel better.  Something
> about endorphins I think.  (Grin).  Sorry for the ramble in 
> trying to answer your question.    Peace,    Debby and Neena
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:53:32 -0500
> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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>> On 11/8/14, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hey everyone!
>> 
>> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
>> 
>> How often does a guide dog have to work?
>> 
>> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
>> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
>> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often
>> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play
>> time and paying attention to it of course.
>> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work
>> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
>> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog
>> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
>> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
>> Just curious.
>> 
>> best
>> Lisa
>> 
>> 
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> Hi Lisa,
> 
> That's a great question! I think this has a lot to do with the energy
> level of your dog. I have a very, very, very energetic dog who needs
> to work, or get some serious exercise,  everyday or his behavior
> suffers. A less energetic dog does not need as much exercise. Of
> course every once in a while, something like an injury or illness
> happens where you can't work your dog and your dog should be fine
> missing a day or even a few days of work.
> 
> Danielle and Thai
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 01:24:27 +0100
> From: Fatmir Seremeti <f.seremeti at gmail.com>
> To: Craig Heaps <craig.heaps at comcast.net>
> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] i'm getting my first guide!
> Message-ID: <94D0AAD5-3987-442F-8EC3-C898AEC898CD at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> Thanks for your kind words and advices! 
> Is there anything I really should have with me when I meet him again next week. Is there anything that I really should buy to prepare here at home. Here in Sweden we get, a harness, leash, eating and drinking bowls, a dog bed, a comb and  a thing to cut his nails. Don't know the English word for that. ;-) not that I even would dream of cutting his nails my selfe. 
> O yes we also get a bell to put on him when he is out of harness on reliving areas. 
> Sorry for my bad English!  
> 
> 
> Med v?nliga h?lsningar / best regards 
> Fatmir seremeti 
> +46705103634
> www.goalballfatmir.blogg.se 
> Twitter: @goalballfatmir
> 
> 
>> 8 nov 2014 kl. 03:46 skrev Craig Heaps <craig.heaps at comcast.net>:
>> 
>> How wonderful. I went through my first week of training wiht a dog that didn't walk fast enough.  And it just didn't work.  So they switched me to Chase, a fast walker.  What a wonderful feeling to have a dog that feels as if it just fitrs.
>> 
>> Blessings to you as you go forward.
>> 
>> Craig and Chase
>> craig.heaps at comcast.net
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fatmir Seremeti via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 3:59 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] i'm getting my first guide!
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all!
>>> 
>>> Ive been a member of this list for about 6 months now and i have learned a lot. i really enjoy reading what you people write. Especially following those getting new guides.
>>> 
>>> I Applied for a guide dog in may of this year and got a visit at home just a couple of weeks after i sent in my application.
>>> I was eligible for a Guide dog so now i had to wait for an information course that would be in the end of October of this year.
>>> I Felt very angry and disappointed that i had to wait for so  long but i didn't really had a choice.
>>> How ever time whent by and October came.
>>> about a week before I was to go to this info course in Stockholm i had a person call me and ask if i wanted to go to a meeting with people intrested to get a guide dog, get some more info, talk to guide dog owners and if we where lucky we would have a instructor there and we would get the chance of walking with a dog.
>>> I of course took the chance and i will be for ever happy that i did.
>>> 
>>> There i met Gibson a male black labrador and we really found each other instantly.
>>> Gibson is three and a half year old and he has been out working for a year but for some reason it didnt work out with this girl that he was at. He was back at the school. There was nothing wrong with Gibson at all. It was more a matter of bad matching meaning that Gibson is a fast walker and needs lots of activity and this person couldnt provide it.
>>> I really enjoyed this day and it seamd that Gibson also liked me.
>>> One week later i was in Stockholm with 8 other people 10 dogs and fore days of info, dogss, food and trying all sorts of dogs with instructors. We learned everything from the raising a dog to taking care of a dog, we got to feel and walk with dogs. Walk with all diferent sizes of dogs.
>>> I got to walk with real big labradors to realy small ones. I also got the chance to walk a lot more with Gibson.
>>> I like them all but no one fellt as good as Gibson. He is a middle hight dog and i feel very natural and comfortable walking with him.
>>> The course was fast over and I was so happy that i had the chance to meet Gibson again but also sad that I had to leav him and that I probably would never meet him again. I Knew that there are about 30 people waiting to be matched with a dog and that my chances of getting a dog so soon was very slim.
>>> I also knew that Gibson has to go out working quite soon because of his age.
>>> I Whent to a goalball tournament during last weekend in Stockholm and even though we won my head just wasn't quite there. I kept wondering if there is any chance that i would get Gibson. non of the people who was at the course really connected with Gibson as i did but i couldnt know if there was any other waiting since before who would be matched with him.
>>> 
>>> This monday i finally got the magical call from one of the instructors.
>>> He told me that they had noticed my connection with Gibson and that he knew we would be a perfect match and that Gibson was mine if i wanted him.
>>> 
>>> I immediately replyed that i would love to have Gibson so i am going to Stockholm for a week of training with him on monday the 17th November and on monday the 24th the training will continue at home.
>>> 
>>> I am so happy guys so i thought i would share this with you.
>>> Hugs to you all from
>>> Fatmir and Gibson
>>> Skickat fr?n min iPad
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:57:44 -0800
> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
> To: "'Lisa'" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>, "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> Message-ID: <006201cffbb8$2c2748c0$8475da40$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Lisa, my first dog would get distrubtive if he didn't work five or six times
> a week. My second had so many problems and was just not sharp, I worked him
> twice a day. My third didn't care if he worked or not. Jake is like that as
> well. But for the first several months I worked them every day to learn the
> signals they tell you if you listen. My first dog would curl around me at
> curbs and steps. So I had to learn to anticipate his signals. He also would
> want to go in places we were previously, so I had to anticipate that as well
> and signal him forward. My second had foot shuffles that meant different
> things. A stop foot shuffle and he leaned into the harness meant the
> sidewalk is rough but we can go through it slowly. A slow down foot shuffle
> and his big head swung to the side, meant he had to relieve himself soon. I
> would have never known these valuable signals if I didn't work the dog and
> listen to my dog. My second would tense up, that meant there was a dog
> nearby. If he tensed up and started breathing hard that meant there was
> someone we knew well. My second was by far the easiest to read, once I
> learned his signals and what they meant. Jake is so focused on his work he
> has very few signals. 
> 
> So the rule for me is anyway,the dogs work nearly every day for the first
> several month or month, usually until our work is smooth almost effortless.
> 
> Sorry there is not a one size fits all answer.
> 
> Becky and golden Jake 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 11:40 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> 
> Hey everyone!
> 
> I would like to hear your opinion on the following question.
> 
> How often does a guide dog have to work?
> 
> By now, I've heard so many different things. Some say a dog has to be
> working every day or otherwise it would get frustrated, bored, angry,
> depressive... And others say it's completely fine to work the dog as often
> as you need to and in the mean time let it just be a happy dog, with play
> time and paying attention to it of course.
> I've also heard that there are dogs who really demand to get out and work
> and others who are fine with one or two lazy days in between.
> So, what do you think? Does it depend on how energetic and active the dog
> is? What if I twisted my ankle and would want to cure it for five days or
> so? Would it be okay to neglect guide work then?
> Just curious.
> 
> best
> Lisa 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:00:08 -0500
> From: Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
> To: Fatmir Seremeti <f.seremeti at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] i'm getting my first guide!
> Message-ID: <90B25B7D-3D01-4359-9EAE-DEE4422BCEA3 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> Hi Fatmir: First congratulations to you and your soon to be new guide! I would get a nylabone for him to have to chew on and maybe a toy but if you do that get something for dogs with a strong bite so you won't have to worry as much about him eating the toy. And make sure you have a place in your home that will be has spot. Maybe have a plce in like the living room and one in bedroom are somethings I did with Willa. Also, make sure your house is dog proof trash cans put up or with a lid that he can't get in to, put things out of his reach meaning high up or way back where his nose can't find it. At least do this until you establish good house manners. Good luck with your training and keep us posted.   
> Danielle and Willa 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Fatmir Seremeti via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for your kind words and advices! 
>> Is there anything I really should have with me when I meet him again next week. Is there anything that I really should buy to prepare here at home. Here in Sweden we get, a harness, leash, eating and drinking bowls, a dog bed, a comb and  a thing to cut his nails. Don't know the English word for that. ;-) not that I even would dream of cutting his nails my selfe. 
>> O yes we also get a bell to put on him when he is out of harness on reliving areas. 
>> Sorry for my bad English!  
>> 
>> 
>> Med v?nliga h?lsningar / best regards 
>> Fatmir seremeti 
>> +46705103634
>> www.goalballfatmir.blogg.se 
>> Twitter: @goalballfatmir
>> 
>> 
>>> 8 nov 2014 kl. 03:46 skrev Craig Heaps <craig.heaps at comcast.net>:
>>> 
>>> How wonderful.  I went through my first week of training wiht a dog that didn't walk fast enough.  And it just didn't work.  So they switched me to Chase, a fast walker.  What a wonderful feeling to have a dog that feels as if it just fitrs.
>>> 
>>> Blessings to you as you go forward.
>>> 
>>> Craig and Chase
>>> craig.heaps at comcast.net
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fatmir Seremeti via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 3:59 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] i'm getting my first guide!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> 
>>>> Ive been a member of this list for about 6 months now and i have learned a lot. i really enjoy reading what you people write. Especially following those getting new guides.
>>>> 
>>>> I Applied for a guide dog in may of this year and got a visit at home just a couple of weeks after i sent in my application.
>>>> I was eligible for a Guide dog so now i had to wait for an information course that would be in the end of October of this year.
>>>> I Felt very angry and disappointed that i had to wait for so  long but i didn't really had a choice.
>>>> How ever time whent by and October came.
>>>> about a week before I was to go to this info course in Stockholm i had a person call me and ask if i wanted to go to a meeting with people intrested to get a guide dog, get some more info, talk to guide dog owners and if we where lucky we would have a instructor there and we would get the chance of walking with a dog.
>>>> I of course took the chance and i will be for ever happy that i did.
>>>> 
>>>> There i met Gibson a male black labrador and we really found each other instantly.
>>>> Gibson is three and a half year old and he has been out working for a year but for some reason it didnt work out with this girl that he was at. He was back at the school. There was nothing wrong with Gibson at all. It was more a matter of bad matching meaning that Gibson is a fast walker and needs lots of activity and this person couldnt provide it.
>>>> I really enjoyed this day and it seamd that Gibson also liked me.
>>>> One week later i was in Stockholm with 8 other people 10 dogs and fore days of info, dogss, food and trying all sorts of dogs with instructors. We learned everything from the raising a dog to taking care of a dog, we got to feel and walk with dogs. Walk with all diferent sizes of dogs.
>>>> I got to walk with real big labradors to realy small ones. I also got the chance to walk a lot more with Gibson.
>>>> I like them all but no one fellt as good as Gibson. He is a middle hight dog and i feel very natural and comfortable walking with him.
>>>> The course was fast over and I was so happy that i had the chance to meet Gibson again but also sad that I had to leav him and that I probably would never meet him again. I Knew that there are about 30 people waiting to be matched with a dog and that my chances of getting a dog so soon was very slim.
>>>> I also knew that Gibson has to go out working quite soon because of his age.
>>>> I Whent to a goalball tournament during last weekend in Stockholm and even though we won my head just wasn't quite there. I kept wondering if there is any chance that i would get Gibson. non of the people who was at the course really connected with Gibson as i did but i couldnt know if there was any other waiting since before who would be matched with him.
>>>> 
>>>> This monday i finally got the magical call from one of the instructors.
>>>> He told me that they had noticed my connection with Gibson and that he knew we would be a perfect match and that Gibson was mine if i wanted him.
>>>> 
>>>> I immediately replyed that i would love to have Gibson so i am going to Stockholm for a week of training with him on monday the 17th November and on monday the 24th the training will continue at home.
>>>> 
>>>> I am so happy guys so i thought i would share this with you.
>>>> Hugs to you all from
>>>> Fatmir and Gibson
>>>> Skickat fr?n min iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/craig.heaps%40comcast.net
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:36:18 -0800
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'debby phillips'" <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing
>    List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,    "'Lisa'" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> Message-ID: <AD2FC04CA2804B6B970A9D15B88ABDA5 at NicoleDell>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> When you ask how often a dog needs to work, are you asking how often a dog
> needs to do guide work and/or how often a dog needs exercise? As far as
> exercise, your dog needs exercise almost every day, particularly a young
> lab. If labs do not exercise almost daily, they tend to get pent up energy
> and then start running around the house like crazy. Exercise does not have
> to be in the form of guide work. How often a dog has to do guide work really
> depends. Lexia had to take a few weeks off last year after surgery, and I do
> not recall having to do any major retraining with her. Most dogs, even if
> they do not work for a few weeks, will not forget how to guide, but they
> might need some reminders on the more difficult parts of guide work, such as
> avoiding overhead obstacles. Note that, even if a dog is working, if the dog
> does not encounter particular situations very often, the dog may need some
> reminders.
>    I would not worry about giving your dog one day a week off. Dogs do
> not really have a concept of weeks, and they do not view guide work the same
> way that humans view their jobs. I think that most of us who have guide dogs
> do not work seven days a week, so our dogs will not always be going out with
> us seven days a week. Yes, we go places on weekends, but you don't have to
> let your dog have a weekend day off. You will be able to tell if your dog
> needs a day off, which probably will not happen very often at this point.
> Labs, particularly young ones, usually do not tire easily, and, if they do,
> it is gone by the next morning.
> 
> Nicole
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of debby phillips
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:41 PM
> To: Lisa; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users;
> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
> 
> Hey Lisa, great question.  Every dog is different of course, so it may
> depend on your individual dog, and certainly if you have an injury and you
> are in pain walking or need time for an ankle, knee or leg to heal, you
> should do that.  I try to do something every day, even if it's not walking a
> huge distance.  But I do give my dog one total day off a week if I can.  I
> need a day off from routine, so I figure my dog might, too.  In the winter
> my dogs have probably gotten less work, especially since I live on the east
> side of Washington state where there's snow and ice.  I didn't grow up with
> snow and ice, mostly rain and cold, and I must say that the older I get the
> more anxious ice, especially makes me.  And yes, I know, I can get things to
> put on my shoes but that doesn't make me any less anxious.
> 
> I get depressed if I'm indoors too much, so even when I don't feel like
> getting out there in the cold bluster of winter I make myself do it because
> it does make me feel better.  Something about endorphins I think.  (Grin).
> Sorry for the ramble in 
> trying to answer your question.    Peace,    Debby and Neena
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 17:40:28 -0800
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'Michael Hingson'" <info at michaelhingson.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing
>    List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>    <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,    "'Tami Jarvis'" <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
> Message-ID: <E4157BB021A046C39B94F8CB01A12025 at NicoleDell>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> That is interesting. Do you have more information? Just curious.
> Danielle, has your sister really thought this through? Has she raised or
> taken care of a dog before? I am not saying that going to college and
> raising a puppy cannot be done, but it is something that really needs to be
> thought through in terms of what is best for both the puppy and your sister,
> particularly if the college does not want the puppy there. Even if she does
> somehow get the college to raise a puppy, I think that they will probably
> not be supportive in sorting out any problems that might occur.
> 
> Nicole
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 9:44 AM
> To: 'Tami Jarvis'; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
> 
> There is at least one college, Hartwick College, that has its own puppy
> raising club.  Raising guide dog puppies has become a project of Hartwick
> students in New York.  The last I heard the students were raising 12 puppies
> on the campus. 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 09:07 AM
> To: Alyssa; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy raising in college dorms
> 
> Alyssa,
> 
> You are correct. Some states have laws that allow for access for SDIT, but
> not all. Whether the state in question has such a law and whether it would
> apply to a college dorm is something your friend could research.
> 
> As for the puppy not causing any problems... Well, I guess the puppy raiser
> -- or the program, if there is one involved -- could offer some sort of
> guarantee that they will take responsibility for any problems the puppy
> causes. /lol/ Granted, the amount of time and energy and thought spent on a
> trainee over and above what one would spend on a pet does make for a pretty
> well-behaved, not-as-destructive pup, but... It's still a puppy and will do
> puppy things, some of which may be unfriendly to carpets and other property.
> 
> I guess what I'm saying is that if I were in charge of a college dorm and a
> college student came to me and promised a puppy wouldn't cause any problems,
> I would not thinking highly of that student's judgment in general. If the
> student had a plan to deal with the puppy responsibly to mitigate the
> potential for damage and to pay up when damage happens, as well as to limit
> disruption to the other dorm residents and all that jazz, I would listen
> more attentively.
> 
> Let us know how your friend approaches the matter and what happens. 
> Inquiring minds, and all that. /smile/
> 
> Tami
> 
>> On 11/07/2014 08:19 PM, Alyssa via nagdu wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Unfortunately, I believe this is true. The ADA doesn't really apply to
> service dogs in training. I believe they are considered as pets. Someone
> correct me if I'm wrong.
>> Alyssa a
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Danielle Sykora via nagdu 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if any of you have raised a puppy to be a service dog 
>>> while living in a college dorm. If so, have you encountered any 
>>> opposition from your school and how did you convince them that the 
>>> puppy would not cause any problems? I am asking because my sister 
>>> wants to raise a guide dog puppy but her school told her they don't 
>>> allow puppies in training in the dorms.
>>> hope this is not off topic.
>>> Danielle and Thai
>>> 
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> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 18:16:33 -0800
> From: debby phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: Fatmir Seremeti <f.seremeti at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List,    the
>    National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] i'm getting my first guide!
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> Hi Fatmir, sounds like they cover the basics.  You might want to 
> get him some toys.  But you might want to ask the trainers there 
> what kind they recommend.  We have certain brands here that I'd 
> recommend, but don't know if you have them there or not.    
> Peace,    Debby and Neena
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> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 18:16:36 -0800
> From: debby phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>,
>    semisweetdebby at gmail.com,    nagdu at nfbnet.org, dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How often does a dog have to work?
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> Hi Nicole, I think that giving the dogs a day when they don't 
> have to work is good for them mentally.  I can't always do it, 
> but I notice when I do that the next day my dogs have always 
> seemed refreshed and rested.  Physically, especially when they're 
> young I don't think it matters.  But mentally it might.  I was 
> able to do this with my first three dogs, but my fourth got sick 
> and it didn't matter so much.  When he was on all his allergy 
> meds and stuff, he would just plod along.  Cleo loved to work, or 
> not, it didn't matter.  Lamar was the same.  Neena loves to work, 
> but there are times I can tell that she's stressed, especially if 
> we have had a really busy busy week and have not had any time 
> off.  My husband, who is sighted and knows dogs probably better 
> than I do, will even tell me, She looks tired.  It's not a 
> physical thing, though.  Maybe it's just me, and she needs time 
> away from me.  Lol.  No, not really.  She follows me practically 
> everywhere now.  (Big smile).    Debby and Neena
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