[nagdu] crate vs tie-down

[Larry D Keeler]

They both have there points and I use them both. I've taken Holly's crate 
door off because she is pretty good around the house. I use the tie down 
when visiting and also to keep both dogs from running during bath time! 
Bowling alleys and rarely, church pews are good spots to use them as well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Valerie Gibson via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] crate vs tie-down


> Hi,
>
> You're a little harsh on crate training, don't you think?
>
> I can see how tie down would be useful, and I can see how crates can be 
> cumbersome, but crate training is supposed to mimmick the den that a 
> mother dog would proide to her pups, so it's easy for the dog to 
> understand.  I don't know of many dogs who tie their pups to trees.
>
> Second, self discipline is taught.  As puppies, dogs ar going to grab 
> things unless they're told what is and is not acceptable to grab.  There 
> is no quick fix for this, only consistancy on your part in teaching the 
> dog.
>
> Third, What if your dog is sick and you need to put her somewhere? a crate 
> is the best place for this.  Or, if there is another dog who is too 
> playful (and your dog wants to be left alone) a crate works.
>
> That being said, I think both crates and tie downs have their place, and 
> dogs shoud be taught to accept both.
>
> I personally don't like dogs coming to my house if theyre not crate 
> trained, nor woud i take a dog to someones house who was not crate 
> trained.
>
> I dont mean to sound harsh, but if your dog doesn't accept crate training, 
> is more the fault of the owner, not the dog.
>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I really hate this crate-training only business.  My dogs who grew up 
>> with tie-down, or used it in class, did not grab everything they could 
>> reach. They had some idea of self-discipline.  I am buying a crate, under 
>> protest, because I'm just tired of having to constantly watch Krokus and 
>> see if he's got hold of something he shouldn't.  There's no where in my 
>> house I can tie him down totally out of reach of anything.  This was 
>> never a problem before. I wanted to try tie-down in class, but my trainer 
>> always forgot to give me an extra tie-down, and the one I was issued was 
>> too short to actually use.
>> So now I have to get a big honking crate, and find a place to put the 
>> stupid thing. I am not happy.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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