[nagdu] Obedience

[Danielle Burton]

Yes Cindy it is taught now but  it is also taught to take it out of their meal. I take kibble out of my dog's breakfast and whatever is left is put bacin her meal for dinner. I do carry a few may 5 small picees igher value treat that is readily available in situations where my dog an exceptionally good job at something but this is rarely given. Those are saved for the big things or if we are having a lot of trouble with something. I do like to use treats because sometimes I am a little too quiet to praise. It is something I sometimes struggle with and part of this is due to my hearing loss and the trainer even said this is a typical problem for hearing impaired students with dogs because we have to really concentrate on tone of voice. So the treats do help me in case I am not vocal enough and don't get me wrong I praise my dog a lot but I've had to work hard at it because I'm more quiet sometimes. And my dog requies a very lively praise. The more lively and energetic I am the better she works.   

Danielle and Willa 


> On Nov 20, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I never give treats for obedience. I think it is taught more now than it
> used to be. We were told to do it if we were having trouble, but it should
> be a part of their kibble rations and not something extra. I just pretty
> much don't give any.
> 
> Cindy
> s
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Burton
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> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:54 AM
> To: Tracy Carcione; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Obedience
> 
> Willa's done that a few times I just put her back in a down and wait a few
> seconds and then give the sit command. She seems to understand that she
> isn't to get back up unless I say to. When shpops up like that I don't
> praise I tell her down and waitand then asfora sit and then praise. and no
> treat. If she waits for the command and then sits on the command I praise
> and treat. This has worked very well. Also, I like to mix up the obedience
> commands and throw in a few touch commands sometimes just to see if she's
> actually listening and paying attention. Also, start with the food far
> enough where he can't reach it. I mean far enough where if you have to pull
> him back he still won't reach it. Use your clicker with the food may be very
> helpful. I know some people like to just use it for targeting but I have
> found it very useful for patterning desirable behaviors as well. 
> 
> Danielle and Willa 
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am trying to be good and do my daily obedience exercises.  I try to do
> them in various places.  What else have people done to jazz them up and keep
> them interesting and useful?
>> I would like to try them with food around, but I'm not sure I can be quick
> enough to keep Krokus from snatching the food without some help from
> someone.  He's really fast, and getting the food would defeat the whole
> purpose.  But I know it can be done, and would like to know the trick.
>> 
>> Tangentially, when I learned OB at GDB many moons ago, I learned to wait a
> beat or two after the down before giving the sit, so the dog was responding
> to the command and not anticipating.  But it seems different at TSE.  It was
> down sit down sit down sit, with no real time between.  Krokus expects that,
> and my classmates did it that way, so I was on my first or 2nd down/sit and
> they had done 3.  Seems odd to me, because Krokus pops up a second after I
> say down, thinking that's how it's done. Seems to me he should be waiting
> for my command.
>> Tracy
>> 
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