[nagdu] Worst day of my life

Thu Oct 9 22:21:19 UTC 2014

I am very sorry to hear that this happened. Is there any type of medical
exam that he can undergo to make sure that there is not something going on?
Finally, before just putting him down, I wonder if there is some kind of
organization that works with and possibly places dogs with aggression
problems.

Nicole

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D Keeler
via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:13 PM
To: Cindy Ray; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life

Amen, Cindy! I imagin he has his hands full as well as his mind! Sometimes,
anything can happen and you just have to plug through it and go forward.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "'L Gwizdak'" <leg1950 at cox.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life

>I just feel that the discussion about Barry's dog, except to express  
>sympathy, should not be held now. I think he needs our loves and 
>support,  to  know we are with him, and not analysis of what anything 
>means. Later maybe  as the pain heals he will want to say more. He has 
>already said more. I  would hope we do not eventually alienate Barry, 
>and I would appreciate the  kindly words of support that have already 
>been uttered here. Maybe I'm  being  too conservative about this? I 
>don't think so.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of L Gwizdak 
> via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:44 PM
> To: Star Gazer; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
> Dog Users; 'Aleeha Dudley'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>
> To me, "started attacking" would mean a new behavior and NOT an 
> on-going one.
>
> Lyn
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is 
> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Aleeha Dudley'" <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing 
> List,the
>
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
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>> It won't, though if it had been me, I'd have done a few things 
>> differently.
>> First, I'd not "get rid" of a dog that wasn't aggressive in favor of 
>> one that was. I especially wouldn't do it if the nonaggressive dog 
>> wasn't mine.
>> I might keep both dogs assuming that I could keep them separate at 
>> all times. I'd also never let the aggressive dog near a baby.
>> All this being said, I do wonder if school ownership hurt Barry in 
>> this case. If the dog was legally his, he could have done whatever it 
>> was he was going to do without school input. I'm concerned that he 
>> asked the school what to do after his grandson was mauled, he didn't 
>> tell them.  I'm also concerned with the level of support he got when 
>> his dog attacked his son's dog. Barry mentions "started attacking" so 
>> this was an ongoing problem.
>> It
>> wasn't just a terrible day that came out of nowhere.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aleeha Dudley [mailto:blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:17 PM
>> To: Star Gazer; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>> Dog Users
>> Cc: Barry Vaughn
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>>
>> Let's not play the blame game here. Something horribly tragic 
>> happened, what's done is done, sitting here and processing why 
>> everything happened the way it did will not help. The point is that a 
>> dog, a guide dog, a dog that this gentleman relies on for his 
>> mobility, and a dog he has developed a significant partnership with, 
>> attacked his own grandson. He'sgot to be going through a lot of rough 
>> emotions right now. Yelling at him for decisions he made will not 
>> help the situation.
>>
>> Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas Vice President, Ohio 
>> Association of blind students Blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com "The wind of 
>> Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." Arabian proverb
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>            Why did you get rid of the other dog when yours was the 
>>> aggressor? And, why did you let your dog and your grandson occupy 
>>> the same space? And, last but not least, where was your son in all this?
>>> You got rid of *his* dog without any input from him, and then the 
>>> both of you allowed a baby near a dog with a known history of
aggression.
>>> At the risk of piling on, you didn't tell your school that you'd put 
>>> your dog down, you asked. Had it been me, that dog would have gone 
>>> to the nearest emergency vet and been put down last night.  I can 
>>> understand maybe keeping your dog, but I can't understand your son's 
>>> just allowing you to get rid of his dog, and I don't understand 
>>> either of you allowing the baby in close proximity with your dog.
>>> I don't understand where the papa bear instincts were on this, which 
>>> leads me to wonder if your school has ownership of your dog?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barry 
>>> Vaughn via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:10 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>>>
>>> Let me catch you up to spped on what has happened with my guide 
>>> these last few months.  Back in April I started keeping my sons dog.  
>>> At first my guide and my sons dog got along great playing together 
>>> and such.  Last month my guide started attacking the other dog.. So 
>>> I got rid of the other dog and everything settled down.  Then last 
>>> night the most awful thing happened.  My ten month old grandsong was 
>>> crawling in the living room and Jake attacked him biting him real bad in
the face.
>>> The bites missed the eye but he had two real bad wounds on the 
>>> forehead and jaw.  I just talked to my school and they recommended 
>>> that I put him down.  The county animal shelter is picking him up 
>>> this
>> morning for a ten day quarrentine.
>>>
>>> Please pray for me and my family.
>>>
>>> Barry and guide Jake
>>>
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