[nagdu] Poodles and other Cute Breeds

Mon Oct 27 16:55:30 UTC 2014

Actually, just so everyone is on the same page, this is, at least, her
second job; she has good travel vision.  In my experience, some of these
handlers don't manage their dogs that well beceause they simply do not
really "use the dog.  It is more of an attention-getter all round, but if
you are legally blind, most schools will give you a dog, but I wish there
was a way to determine that people with good travel vision will really allow
their dogs to do the jobs for which they were trained.  If you don't want to
have to manage your dog, now and again, then a person probably ought not
have a dog.

This dog is only a little over three, and I think he was about 18 months
when she got him.

Anyway, I'll give a new handler a lot of latitude and help, but this woman
was well-aware of her dog because she would pull him back when I told her
the dog was on top of my dog who was lying there trying to be good.  I
couldn't get him under the chairs at this venue.
Darla & Handsome Huck

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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles and other Cute Breeds

Last week, Jenny - a black Lab - had a very bad day and was insanely
over-distracted by my friend's guide dog. I had to basically physically
restrain her while we were waiting outside to get into a gym we had rented.
I was so embarrassed, but I honestly didn't know what else to do.
Thankfully, even the next day, she completely ignored the exact same guide
dog, and ignored every single other dog we came in contact with for the next
week.

This having been said, I honestly think that more needs to be done to make
sure that dogs behave, but if the dog is just having a very VERY bad day, a
little grace might be an order if every effort has been made to make sure
the dog is behaving and is, at the very least, under control.

Daryl
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From: Vivianna via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:44:40 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Poodles and other Cute Breeds

Hi,
sadly, i fear you are correct.  i know of 3 folks with poodles and they are
all handled very poorly.
yes, they are intelligent dogs and can be good guides but, not with such
poor management.
just brings me back to the topic i brought up last week about what to do if
i see someone whose dog is acting in an inappropriate manner for a guide
dog.
technically, the public place that you were in could have asked her to leave
as, her dog was out of control and bothering others.

Vivianna

On Oct 27, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Darla via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
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> This may not be the correct subject line, so feel free to change it, 
> if appropriate.
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> 
> I was at a meeting Saturday where there were probably 7 guide dogs; I 
> sat at a table with someone I know who has a poodle.  Rather than 
> making it lie quietly it was at the end of its leash constantly 
> bothering my dog and every other dog it could get to.  All the handler 
> did was scold and pull the dog back-no leash correction; no other 
> command to give the dog something else to do.  I guess the subject line
should read "dog management."
> 
> 
> 
> This handler has also had, at least one dog, before this poodle, but 
> I'm wondering if people are getting poodles more for the cuteness 
> factor than the great working dogs they are knowing people with 
> allergies who need a less allergy-producing dog are waiting for one.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if there is a question here or not except to say that 
> this kind of behavior really honks me off, especially when the handler 
> really isn't making an effort to do anything about it.  Guess next 
> time I will move to a table where she'd have to crowd in to fit, but I 
> don't understand people getting a dog and allowing it to act like a wild
thing or something.
> 
> 
> 
> If I do approach her-whether or not she likes me afterword is 
> immaterial-what have you all found that works.
> 
> 
> 
> When I see  people handle dogs like she does, it makes me wish the 
> schools
> **did** have more to day, but we need to police ourselves, and I want 
> it to stay that way.
> 
> 
> 
> I should think, if I had a dog that really drew a lot of attention, 
> I'd try even harder to keep the dog close to me and under control and 
> as unobtrusive as possible.
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry for my grump session, but Huck really tried so hard to be good.  
> The handler closest to me also had a dog; if you didn't' possibly see 
> her, you'd have never known her dog was there, and she and I have had 
> lunch with the two dogs nose to nose under the table, and nobody knew they
were even there.
> 
> Darla & Handsome Huck Who really does try to be good most of the time
> 
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> Darla J. Rogers M.S.
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> Djrogers0628 at gmail.com
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