[nagdu] NYC was Length of Training (was: Why I decided not toownertrain.)

Thu Sep 25 01:20:46 UTC 2014

Hi all, 
I have to agree. I live in new York and compared to l a and Boston it is much easier to navigate and there are so many pedestrians the cars have to obey the lights. In Boston in one I saw three people run a light. Cross walks are another issue. 

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> On Sep 24, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Marsha Drenth via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> New Yorkers, obey red lights and cross walks? really? Never when I was in NYC, during rush hour. I don't know about the auditory clues, those things are no help to me. I will agree that NYC is a grid, and very to get around in layout. the rest is not so easy. 
> Interesting that we all have different views on the same city. 
> 
> Marsha drenth  
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>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:28 AM, "Mark J. Cadigan via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> As a Bostonian, I can attest to the fact that no one in this city knows how to drive. It most certainly keeps my dog on his tows. I almost found NYC easier to travel in, because the city is set up in a grid, and you have very clear sound clues for when it is your turn to cross the street. Also, drivers in NYC obey red lights and crosswalks.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NYC was Length of Training (was: Why I decided not toownertrain.)
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>>> Ben loves NYC.  The first time we went there, I could hear him say "At last, something that requires my superpowers!"  He gets a bit bored in the town where I live.  He thinks "I can do this with one paw behind my back, so I might as well sniff at the same time."
>>> I was thinking I'd like a dog who wasn't so bored at home, but still could cope with NYC, but NYC has gotten so silly lately that I'm not sure how well that would work.
>>> 
>>> I've been to Boston years ago.  I thought the drivers were even crazier than they are in NYC.
>>> Tracy
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Drenth via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "debby phillips" <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:27 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] NYC was Length of Training (was: Why I decided not to ownertrain.)
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>>>> I know what you mean about dogs and what different enviroments they like and or do not like. My first pup was good for suburban life, second loved city life, but not NYC. First pup I lived in texas, second I was in MD. And now I am in Philly. My pup now is one that really really really loves big cities. I have never seen a dog who loves crowds, cars, noise, and just the busyness so much. When I was spending some time up in NYC, this dog was on her game, she didn't like the grates in the sidewalks, but she was in doggie guiding heaven. Back in Philly on my university campus, which has 40,000 students, she is back in her element. My pup can navigate me in a thick crowd, and all I feel are bodies and the wind when I pass people. Since I can't hear the people, my pup has the added job of understanding that when we pass people she should give me a good clearance because I can't hear them to go around them. My point of the post is that it really does take a special dog to deal with
>>>> big cities like NYC, Philly and DC. I wonder is Boston as busy as those other cities I mentioned? I might need to visit to see for myself.
>>>> Ok enought rambling for me, back into my studying I go...
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>> email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
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>>>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:36 PM, debby phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> They begin by learning how to walk in front, not heeling.  They get accustomed to the harness, they begin to learn about stopping for curbs and steps, because the instructor fakes like they are falling, and makes a lot of fuss.  Then they teach them to hup up to the curb, gradually introducing more and more things to the training.  Toward the end, all the dogs go to New York City.  Neena was there with her puppy raisers and she was also there with her trainer.  She likes it, but I can tell she wouldn't want to live there.  She was ready to go when we left.  I could tell that she was tired, because her enthusiasm was waning.  I asked Joy if that was correct and she said that yes, it was.  Neena would do okay in New York City for brief times-like a morning or an afternoon or whatever, but she would not thrive living there.  Some dogs, she said did really thrive on being in NYC.  I'm glad that we had that experience, but I doubt that I'll be living in New York City ever. I'm
>>>> a West Coaster at heart.  Sorry, probably more than you wanted to know. (Grin).    Peace,    Debby and Neena
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