[nagdu] age of guide dog maturity

John Sanders starmy22 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 1 19:04:35 UTC 2015 

Hi,
she has shown me that she can be trusted off leash.
That's correct.
She will also get excited when company is at the door.
She will start doing circles.
I'm trying to work with her on not doing that.
how should I go about fixing this?
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John an the always beautiful, always gorgeous but when company is at the 
door exciting Mollie!

-----Original Message----- 
From: Daryl Marie via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 2:45 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity

John,

The rule we set with Jenny was she was not allowed to jump, period.  If we 
were playing and she jumped, should say "No jumping", even as she was still 
in the air, so she knew that behavior was NOT ok.  I would turn my back 
and/or drop whatever toy we played with, and playtime was over for a while. 
I would always pick up the toy again later and try playing again, and she 
learned quickly that playtime continued if she didn't jump.  I think I only 
had to do it twice.

Has Molly shown that she is not trustworthy off-leash in your home?  If I 
remember correctly, you've had her for three months or so, right?  At this 
point, she should be familiar enough with you and your rules that she should 
be OK off-leash.  My concern is that she might be acting out because you 
sound like you don't trust her to behave...

Daryl
----- Original Message ----- From: Pam via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: John 
Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association 
of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:11:42 -0600 
(MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity  hi john. do u always 
keep a leash on her when she's in the house with u too? i've always heard if 
u r playing with a dog and they start to jump on u just to turn away and 
stop playing with them straight away so she should learn if she starts to 
jump then no more play time. but maybe someone else will have better advice. 
Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Apr 2015, at 18:59, John Sanders via nagdu 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Hi, > every time I try to play with her; she 
thinks that it's a good idea to jump on me. > I tell her"Mollie no!". > If I 
keep on letting her jump on me while she still a puppy, it will most likely 
carry on to older stage. > How should I go about making her stop the 
jumping? > I always keep the leash on her. > is that a good thing to do? > I 
hope to hear from you soon. > Sincerely, > John Sanders > > > > 
 > -----Original Message----- From: Danielle Sykora via nagdu > Sent: 
Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:16 PM > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National 
Association of Guide Dog Users > Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog 
maturity > > I completely agree with this. A tired dog is most definitely a 
happy, > well-behaved dog. My dog is extremely energetic so he needs to work 
 > and/or play a lot in order to be tired. If you know you are going > 
somewhere where Molly will likely be distracted or have to lay down > for 
longer periods of time, it might be helpful to give her some > playtime 
before you leave to take the edge off her energy. > > Danielle and Thai > >> 
On 4/1/15, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> I absolutely 
second this! The more you work with Molly, the calmer she will >> be. I have 
found with an energetic dog like Jenny, she needs to either work >> every 
day or a really vigorous play session on days where she's not working. >> 
Even IF she is working every day, a really good play helps settle her >> 
down. >> >> IMHO, it is not uncommon for a group of guide dogs to feed off 
of each >> others' energy; if one of them (Molly?) gets excited and wants to 
meet and >> greet, it is much more likely that some of the others may want 
to as well. >> A friend of mine went to a seminar last weekend where there 
were seven guide >> dogs, and they were ALL distracted by each other. She 
said it was the >> weirdest thing she'd ever seen. >> >> So working on 
obedience with her, working her daily if possible, are great >> suggestions. 
 >> >> Also, if you remain calm and don't get frustrated with her, even if 
she's >> being a bit of a Distracto-Dog, it will go a long way to making 
these >> episoes more about learning whta is expected, rather than 
correcting a >> problem. >> >> Daryl >> >> ----- Original Message -----  
From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: 'John Sanders' 
<starmy22 at gmail.com>, 'NAGDU Mailing >> List, the National Association of 
Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: >> Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:48:26 -0600 
(MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog >> maturity I agree with Sandy. 
Molly may just have been excited by seeing >> other guide dogs. And some 
other user making snarky comments is not helpful, >> unless you asked him 
for his opinion. It's good you're working on obedience. >> Also, a tired dog 
is a good dog. I find that young dogs benefit from working >> every day, if 
your health and the weather permit. Even working a few blocks >> is better 
than nothing; it doesn't have to be a 2 or 3 mile walk. In my >> experience, 
working every day helps a dog settle in every way. Good luck. >> 
Tracy -----Original Message----- From: nagdu >> 
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Sanders via nagdu Sent: 
 >> Sunday, March 29, 2015 7:13 PM To: Raven Tolliver; NAGDU Mailing List, 
the >> National Association of Guide Dog Users Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of 
guide >> dog maturity Hi, I was at a blindness employment seminar this 
weekend. >> Mollie kept on wanting to get up and walk around. I gave her all 
kinds of >> leash corrections and voice commands. I told her "Mollie down!". 
She didn't >> listen to me. Today on the way home; one of the people who was 
there, who >> does have some sight said that they were observing my dog. And 
they had said >> to me that your dog is to young and she was released to 
soon and your dog >> isn't ready. I don't want to give up Mollie. I love her 
to death. She is a >> quiet dog and that's what I like. Mollie keeps on 
wanting to stand up and >> walk around. She won't sit still for very long. I 
was only at pilot for >> three weeks of training. Do I need to go back down 
to pilot for some >> additional training? I hope to hear from you soon. 
Sincerely, John Sanders >> -----Original Message----- From: Raven Tolliver 
via nagdu Sent: Sunday, >> March 29, 2015 4:44 PM To: NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of >> Guide Dog Users Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide 
dog maturity John, Large >> breed dogs, which includes retriever breeds, 
mature between 2 and 3 years of >> age. So while your dog is definitely not 
done growing, whether she is too >> young to be a guide is determined by 
you, the person who lives with her >> strengths, weaknesses, habits, and 
level of understanding 24-7. If you are >> having trouble with some 
behavior, let us know what it is, and we will offer >> whatever help we can. 
Many young dogs just require an extra mile of patience >> and 
persistence. -- Raven You are valuable because of your potential, not >> 
because of what you have or what you do. Naturally-reared guide dogs >> 
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs On 3/29/15, Applebutter Hill 
 >> via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > John, > Hunter was 15 months when I 
 >> got him, and his trainer said he learned > everything the first time he 
was >> shown and he didn't think he needed > to stay in training. I had 
other dogs >> who were older, and one was 22 > months old, and his was the 
hardest >> adjustment, so you never know. I > think it depends on the dog. 
Are you >> having problems? > Donna > > -----Original Message----- > From: 
nagdu >> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John > Sanders via 
nagdu > >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:55 PM > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org > 
Subject: >> [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity > > Hi, > I have a question: 
my guide dog >> is only 15 months. > I thought that she was a year; but she 
isn't. > Is 15 >> months to young for a dog to be released as a guide dog? > 
I got my dog from >> Pilot. > I hope to hear from you soon. > Sincerely, > 
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