[nagdu] Excited behavior WAS Re: age of guide dog maturity
John Sanders
starmy22 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 1 22:18:32 UTC 2015
Hi,
I'm putting her leash on when she is not listening or if she gets out of
hand.
Especially when I'm over at my parents house.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders
-----Original Message-----
From: Daryl Marie via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:05 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Excited behavior WAS Re: age of guide dog maturity
John,
Does putting the leash on her help? Are you using the leash as a negative
thing?
For example, if she's not listening, you put her leash on her... so is she
not coming when called? Or is she not sitting when you say to sit? There's
a difference between putting her leash on her because she is not coming when
called or is getting into the garbage can, and putting the leash on her
because she's getting up out of her bed to stretch or find a toy of hers.
Ideally, you don't want the leash to be considered a punishment...
Daryl
----- Original Message ----- From: John Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com> To:
Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca>, NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wed, 01 Apr 2015
13:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] Excited behavior WAS Re: age of
guide dog maturity Hi, What I mean by that is that if she doesn't listen to
me, then I put the leash on her. I hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely,
John Sanders -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Marie via nagdu Sent:
Wednesday, April 01, 2015 3:19 PM To: Nagdu at nfbnet.org Subject: [nagdu]
Excited behavior WAS Re: age of guide dog maturity Hi, John, So, do you mean
that she CAN be trusted in your home? Then why is she on-leash in your home?
This is where I am confused, unless I read the email wrong. If she can be
trusted, there is no need for her to be on-leash for long periods unless she
is guiding, etc. As for when people come to the door, you have two options:
1) Let her be a happy dog and calmly greet someone at the door. You decide
what behavior is acceptable (standing, wagging tail, sitting, whatever).
Personally, I will allow happy circles or tail wags or sitting calmly
wagging her tail, so long as Jenny listens to directions (for some reason,
she understands the phrase "No Parties" means that she needs to chill out a
bit). OR 2) Work with Mollie on going to her bed or a crate or blanket when
someone comes to the door. This can be done a number of ways, but pointing
to her bed/blanket/crate and tell her something like "Go to bed" has worked
for me. If she does, praise her. Start by doing this when there is no one at
the door, and work up from there. Either option you choose, start with baby
steps and work up to getting the behavior you want. At the end of the day,
you can't stop your dog from feeling emotions, such as excitement, but you
can decide which behaviors are acceptable to you. Daryl ----- Original
Message ----- From: John Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com> To: Daryl Marie
<crazymusician at shaw.ca>, NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of
Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 13:04:35 -0600
(MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity Hi, she has shown me
that she can be trusted off leash. That's correct. She will also get excited
when company is at the door. She will start doing circles. I'm trying to
work with her on not doing that. how should I go about fixing this? I hope
to hear from you soon. Sincerely, John an the always beautiful, always
gorgeous but when company is at the door exciting Mollie! -----Original
Message----- From: Daryl Marie via nagdu Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015
2:45 PM To: nagdu at nfbnet.org Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity
John, The rule we set with Jenny was she was not allowed to jump, period. If
we were playing and she jumped, should say "No jumping", even as she was
still in the air, so she knew that behavior was NOT ok. I would turn my back
and/or drop whatever toy we played with, and playtime was over for a while.
I would always pick up the toy again later and try playing again, and she
learned quickly that playtime continued if she didn't jump. I think I only
had to do it twice. Has Molly shown that she is not trustworthy off-leash in
your home? If I remember correctly, you've had her for three months or so,
right? At this point, she should be familiar enough with you and your rules
that she should be OK off-leash. My concern is that she might be acting out
because you sound like you don't trust her to behave... Daryl ----- Original
Message ----- From: Pam via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: John Sanders
<starmy22 at gmail.com>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:11:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity hi john. do u always keep a
leash on her when she's in the house with u too? i've always heard if u r
playing with a dog and they start to jump on u just to turn away and stop
playing with them straight away so she should learn if she starts to jump
then no more play time. but maybe someone else will have better advice. Sent
from my iPhone > On 1 Apr 2015, at 18:59, John Sanders via nagdu
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Hi, > every time I try to play with her; she
thinks that it's a good idea to jump on me. > I tell her"Mollie no!". > If I
keep on letting her jump on me while she still a puppy, it will most likely
carry on to older stage. > How should I go about making her stop the
jumping? > I always keep the leash on her. > is that a good thing to do? > I
hope to hear from you soon. > Sincerely, > John Sanders > > > >
> -----Original Message----- From: Danielle Sykora via nagdu > Sent:
Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:16 PM > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users > Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog
maturity > > I completely agree with this. A tired dog is most definitely a
happy, > well-behaved dog. My dog is extremely energetic so he needs to work
> and/or play a lot in order to be tired. If you know you are going >
somewhere where Molly will likely be distracted or have to lay down > for
longer periods of time, it might be helpful to give her some > playtime
before you leave to take the edge off her energy. > > Danielle and Thai > >>
On 4/1/15, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> I absolutely
second this! The more you work with Molly, the calmer she will >> be. I have
found with an energetic dog like Jenny, she needs to either work >> every
day or a really vigorous play session on days where she's not working. >>
Even IF she is working every day, a really good play helps settle her >>
down. >> >> IMHO, it is not uncommon for a group of guide dogs to feed off
of each >> others' energy; if one of them (Molly?) gets excited and wants to
meet and >> greet, it is much more likely that some of the others may want
to as well. >> A friend of mine went to a seminar last weekend where there
were seven guide >> dogs, and they were ALL distracted by each other. She
said it was the >> weirdest thing she'd ever seen. >> >> So working on
obedience with her, working her daily if possible, are great >>
suggestions. >> >> Also, if you remain calm and don't get frustrated with
her, even if she's >> being a bit of a Distracto-Dog, it will go a long way
to making these >> episoes more about learning whta is expected, rather than
correcting a >> problem. >> >> Daryl >> >> ----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: 'John Sanders'
<starmy22 at gmail.com>, 'NAGDU Mailing >> List, the National Association of
Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: >> Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:48:26 -0600
(MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide dog >> maturity I agree with Sandy.
Molly may just have been excited by seeing >> other guide dogs. And some
other user making snarky comments is not helpful, >> unless you asked him
for his opinion. It's good you're working on obedience. >> Also, a tired dog
is a good dog. I find that young dogs benefit from working >> every day, if
your health and the weather permit. Even working a few blocks >> is better
than nothing; it doesn't have to be a 2 or 3 mile walk. In my >> experience,
working every day helps a dog settle in every way. Good luck. >>
Tracy -----Original Message----- From: nagdu >>
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Sanders via nagdu Sent:
>> Sunday, March 29, 2015 7:13 PM To: Raven Tolliver; NAGDU Mailing List,
the >> National Association of Guide Dog Users Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of
guide >> dog maturity Hi, I was at a blindness employment seminar this
weekend. >> Mollie kept on wanting to get up and walk around. I gave her all
kinds of >> leash corrections and voice commands. I told her "Mollie down!".
She didn't >> listen to me. Today on the way home; one of the people who was
there, who >> does have some sight said that they were observing my dog. And
they had said >> to me that your dog is to young and she was released to
soon and your dog >> isn't ready. I don't want to give up Mollie. I love her
to death. She is a >> quiet dog and that's what I like. Mollie keeps on
wanting to stand up and >> walk around. She won't sit still for very long. I
was only at pilot for >> three weeks of training. Do I need to go back down
to pilot for some >> additional training? I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely, John Sanders >> -----Original Message----- From: Raven Tolliver
via nagdu Sent: Sunday, >> March 29, 2015 4:44 PM To: NAGDU Mailing List,the
National Association of >> Guide Dog Users Subject: Re: [nagdu] age of guide
dog maturity John, Large >> breed dogs, which includes retriever breeds,
mature between 2 and 3 years of >> age. So while your dog is definitely not
done growing, whether she is too >> young to be a guide is determined by
you, the person who lives with her >> strengths, weaknesses, habits, and
level of understanding 24-7. If you are >> having trouble with some
behavior, let us know what it is, and we will offer >> whatever help we can.
Many young dogs just require an extra mile of patience >> and
persistence. -- Raven You are valuable because of your potential, not >>
because of what you have or what you do. Naturally-reared guide dogs >>
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs On 3/29/15, Applebutter Hill
>> via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > John, > Hunter was 15 months when I
>> got him, and his trainer said he learned > everything the first time he
was >> shown and he didn't think he needed > to stay in training. I had
other dogs >> who were older, and one was 22 > months old, and his was the
hardest >> adjustment, so you never know. I > think it depends on the dog.
Are you >> having problems? > Donna > > -----Original Message----- > From:
nagdu >> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John > Sanders via
nagdu > >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:55 PM > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org >
Subject: >> [nagdu] age of guide dog maturity > > Hi, > I have a question:
my guide dog >> is only 15 months. > I thought that she was a year; but she
isn't. > Is 15 >> months to young for a dog to be released as a guide dog? >
I got my dog from >> Pilot. > I hope to hear from you soon. > Sincerely, >
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