[nagdu] Be careful when someone says "you can"--lol

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Mon Aug 3 13:57:11 UTC 2015


						Yes, Dan, me too. Post away!

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Be careful when someone says "you can"--lol

Hi Dan.
I certainly found your missive interesting.  I'd love to hear more about
your travels to other countries with your dogs.
Hey, you should write a book. .:) Some people write books about how Fluffy
helps them walk around town.  You could write about how Fluffy helped you
travel the world.
Tracy

> Stargazer's statement about her husband saying "you can" reminded me 
> of an incident in which the meaning of that word was indeed (it's
possible"
> rather
> than (You should"--lol.
> In 1995 I went to Russia with my first dog for a grad course in 
> Russian English interpreting, I was there  several  months And just in 
> case you're interested, . at least at that time Russia was terrible in 
> terms of access for guide dog users and so on.
> I was in Moscow.
> At any rate, at that time I was a relatively new guide dog user and 
> full of piss and vinegar and wanted to go out and explore, second or 
> third day there I thought I should try crossing the highway  near the 
> dorm Konsomolski Prospekt.
> Yes, a lot of traffic but I thought, "how nice it would be to see if I 
> can cross it and go to the other side. Why did Dan (or the chicken) 
> cross the Konsomolsky Prospekt?--lol because  he wanted to get to the
other side .
> Anyway, let's see if I remember...out the dormitory door, down steps, 
> over a sort of open concrete area, over grass and then a sidewalk. All 
> right, I asked someone where the corner was. He walked with me, then I 
> said "can I cross here"  in Russian of course.
> He said "yes you can, but...". Well it sounded to me like there were 
> no cars so I intoned those famous words, "Grant, forward". Grant of 
> course was my hound at that time.
>
> Now the guy came running after me and met me on the other side.  He 
> said "I meant it is possible to cross there, but people don't do it, 
> there are seven lanes of traffic... We have an underpass, someone 
> should show you where the pedestrian underpass is.".
> So you can there meant "it's possible" but not, "you should.".
>
> Now there is an addendum to this story (weren't you afraid of 
> that--smile ).
> In 1997 I was in Monterey, California. I was walking when all of the 
> sudden a guy comes up to me and says in a very thick accent "hey, I 
> remember you from crossing street".
> "What," Dan thinks, "excuse me, Sir." I said.
> "yes, you wer crossing street, I remember, very danger, two years ago."
> I still am thinking what is he talking about and thought that maybe 
> this was a deranged person who just happened to think he'd play some 
> game with a blind person, maybe someone off their meds.
>
> "Yes," he continued" but you had black dog then, not yellow".
> Well, my  god, this guy must be legit since Grant was black and my 
> Evan I had in 1997 was yellow.
> He explained "You say to me, can I cross street, and I say can, but 
> before I finish you start walking like tank. I came after you to make 
> sure I could wave to cars so no one runs blind person over, I am 
> Christian."
>
> Yes, indeed, his name was roman and he was  a political science 
> professor at
> the University where I was studying for   that time in Moscow and e was in
> California for a conference. That was indeed a coincidence. But the 
> story does indeed go to illustrate that the phrase "you can" may have 
> different meaning depending on the person.
> I hope you found my book-length manuscript amusing.
>
> Enjoy the day.
>
> Dan and the Parker Hound
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer 
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:33 AM
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> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking in new territory
>
> 				Lori,
> Your fiance sounds like my husband. When he says "You can..." I've 
> learned to respond with "Would you?" If he hesitates then I say 
> "That's what I need to know". What I've found is that lots of things 
> are good ideas until an individual has to do them.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christina 
> Moore via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:50 PM
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> Cc: Christina Moore <christina.moore16 at houghton.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking in new territory
>
> If Rick said he would not do the crossing himself and he is sighted 
> than I believe that you should probably not do it either. You can call 
> out a trainer but they may tell you the same thing.
>
> --Christina
>
>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 22:36, Kaye Kipp via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Oh
>
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