[nagdu] Be careful when someone says "you can"--lol

Mon Aug 3 16:16:26 UTC 2015

Hi Dan,

oh wow, what a story! But most impressive is the coincidence at the end. :) 
How amazing!

Well, in regards to crossing highways and similar adventures, I personally 
am proud to have crossed a viaduct over a highway yesterday without having a 
panic attack. While Taylor was perfectly fine and confident, I was just 
thinking: Oh my god, oh my god, I can't hear if the cars are underneath or 
above me or just about to hit me... But I'm sure I'll get used to it over 
the time.

Lisa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Weiner via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: [nagdu] Be careful when someone says "you can"--lol

> Stargazer's statement about her husband saying "you can" reminded me of an
> incident in which the meaning of that word was indeed (it's possible" 
> rather
> than (You should"--lol.
> In 1995 I went to Russia with my first dog for a grad course in Russian
> English interpreting, I was there  several  months And just in case you're
> interested, . at least at that time Russia was terrible in terms of access
> for guide dog users and so on.
> I was in Moscow.
> At any rate, at that time I was a relatively new guide dog user and full 
> of
> piss and vinegar and wanted to go out and explore, second or third day 
> there
> I thought I should try crossing the highway  near the dorm Konsomolski
> Prospekt.
> Yes, a lot of traffic but I thought, "how nice it would be to see if I can
> cross it and go to the other side. Why did Dan (or the chicken) cross the
> Konsomolsky Prospekt?--lol because  he wanted to get to the other side .
> Anyway, let's see if I remember...out the dormitory door, down steps, over 
> a
> sort of open concrete area, over grass and then a sidewalk. All right, I
> asked someone where the corner was. He walked with me, then I said "can I
> cross here"  in Russian of course.
> He said "yes you can, but...". Well it sounded to me like there were no 
> cars
> so I intoned those famous words, "Grant, forward". Grant of course was my
> hound at that time.
>
> Now the guy came running after me and met me on the other side.  He said 
> "I
> meant it is possible to cross there, but people don't do it, there are 
> seven
> lanes of traffic... We have an underpass, someone should show you where 
> the
> pedestrian underpass is.".
> So you can there meant "it's possible" but not, "you should.".
>
> Now there is an addendum to this story (weren't you afraid of that--smile
> ).
> In 1997 I was in Monterey, California. I was walking when all of the 
> sudden
> a guy comes up to me and says in a very thick accent "hey, I remember you
> from crossing street".
> "What," Dan thinks, "excuse me, Sir." I said.
> "yes, you wer crossing street, I remember, very danger, two years ago."
> I still am thinking what is he talking about and thought that maybe this 
> was
> a deranged person who just happened to think he'd play some game with a
> blind person, maybe someone off their meds.
>
> "Yes," he continued" but you had black dog then, not yellow".
> Well, my  god, this guy must be legit since Grant was black and my Evan I
> had in 1997 was yellow.
> He explained "You say to me, can I cross street, and I say can, but before 
> I
> finish you start walking like tank. I came after you to make sure I could
> wave to cars so no one runs blind person over, I am Christian."
>
> Yes, indeed, his name was roman and he was  a political science professor 
> at
> the University where I was studying for   that time in Moscow and e was in
> California for a conference. That was indeed a coincidence. But the story
> does indeed go to illustrate that the phrase "you can" may have different
> meaning depending on the person.
> I hope you found my book-length manuscript amusing.
>
> Enjoy the day.
>
> Dan and the Parker Hound
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via
> nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:33 AM
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> Cc: Star Gazer
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking in new territory
>
> Lori,
> Your fiance sounds like my husband. When he says "You can..." I've learned
> to respond with "Would you?" If he hesitates then I say "That's what I 
> need
> to know". What I've found is that lots of things are good ideas until an
> individual has to do them.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christina Moore
> via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:50 PM
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Christina Moore <christina.moore16 at houghton.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Walking in new territory
>
> If Rick said he would not do the crossing himself and he is sighted than I
> believe that you should probably not do it either. You can call out a
> trainer but they may tell you the same thing.
>
> --Christina
>
>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 22:36, Kaye Kipp via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Oh
>
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