[nagdu] Fake Service Dogs

Mon Aug 3 21:15:00 UTC 2015

If it were me, I'd go with Michael's advice.  Help the businesses to 
understand that they can ask if the dog is needed because of a disability 
and what task/s the dog does.  If she can't answer those questions with a 
yes and something that she had to have trained the dog to do, then she can 
be refused entry.  I wouldn't get into any sort of disability evaluation. 
If she says she has a disability, then she does, unless a judge finds 
otherwise.  If the dog isn't behaved, then she can be asked to remove it. 
Licking, interacting with other customers or their meal, poor grooming to 
the point of being a health hazard are all grounds for the dog to leave, in 
my humble opinion anyway.

I think all you can really do is to help the businesses understand their 
rights.  It might help to print out that recent FAQ that the DOJ just put 
out.  Business owners like to see stuff in print from an official source.  I 
think it helps them accept it as legitimate and feel more confident in 
following through.

There is a lady here, in my town, who has a dog for her psychiatric 
condition.  I've run across her twice.  the first time in a restaurant, 
where the dog was standing at the end of it's leash in the middle of the 
aisle.  the second time was just a few weeks ago in Wal-Mart.  I had Monty 
with me.  Apparently her dog was at the end of his leash, trying for all he 
was worth to get to Monty.  I didn't realize there was another dog, until my 
son told me in the next aisle.   We went on about our shopping and didn't 
encounter her in the store again.  I suspect she was making an effort to 
keep her dog away.  Personally, I'm not enthused with her dog's behavior, 
but neither do I think it's so horrendous that she should be asked to leave. 
My dogs aren't perfect and I'd hope that I'd get the same sort of 
compassion.

Julie
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Miranda Morse via nagdu
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake Service Dogs

The woman says that she trained the dog herself and many people who know her
claim that the dog is not a service animal. Many are even skeptical about
whether she has PTSD. Needless to say this woman's reputation and past is
not the most desirable.
The dog barks in public, licks people's glasses, begs for food and licks
merchandise in stores. The dog also smells and has fleas or some type of
allergy that makes him scratch constantly.

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What I have observed is that yes, it probably is a service dog. Having said
that however, I have met lots of people with ptsd who for some reason don't
require the dogs to behave!

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Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:18 PM
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Subject: [nagdu] Fake Service Dogs

Hello, In the last week I have been approached by two different individuals
at different times about a woman in town who has PTSD and has a service dog.
Their claims are that it is a fake service animal because of the way it acts
in public. It is a great dane and I have seen it in public before and I
would tend to agree.

I would appreciate any suggestions on how to address this matter?

Miranda

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