[nagdu] Going to Prison.

Tue Aug 11 18:37:57 UTC 2015

Some puppies at the Guide Dog Foundation/America's Vet Dogs are raised
in prison enviornments. The way I understand it, the puppy lives with
the prisoner during the week. As someone has pointed out, the puppy
becomes the sole focus of the prisoner. No puppy raised in a home
environment is going to get that kind of one on one attention. On the
weekends, the puppy lives with a puppy raiser who has volunteered to
raise a puppy part time.

Danielle, Thai, and Bonnie (GDF puppy in training)

On 8/11/15, melissa R green via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I believe that GDF is also
> having some dogs from a
> prison.  I am sure it is a
> very strict screening process
> for the prisoners to qualify
> for the program.  I am all for
> providing a second chance,
> because I know that people
> make mistakes.
>
> Warmly,
> Melissa R. Green and Pj
> It is 'where we are' that
> should make all the
> difference, whether we believe
> we belong there or not.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
> rg] On Behalf Of Becky
> Frankeberger via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015
> 9:52 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'
> Cc: Becky Frankeberger
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> Some of Pilot's most obedient
> dogs were raised at Marysville
> Prison for women, I believe.
>
> I am not sure any more how
> many schools are still using
> prison raised dogs.
> Do any of you know if your
> school is availing themselves
> of the fine prison raised
> dogs? I think Southeastern is
> and Pilot.
>
> Becky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
> rg] On Behalf Of S L Johnson
> via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015
> 6:29 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: S L Johnson
> <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> I would not accept a dog that
> had been raised in a prison.
> I would be concerned that the
> dog hadn't been exposed to
> everyday life in a normal home
> environment, children playing,
> noisy traffic etc...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: larry d keeler via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 11:01 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'
> Cc: larry d keeler
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> And, lets not forget! Some
> prisoners may have had a hand
> in training some of our
> dogs!Which is a great thing
> both for them and us! Not
> saying or judging the prison
> system but, like anything else
> it has holes in it. But, if
> they can help train dogs and
> get comfort from it, well the
> better for them!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
> rg] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 10:43 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> Sandra, I don't really quite
> get the hostility. Many have
> made good points about this
> issue already. I will confirm
> what Julie has said. This is a
> women's prison where there is
> a prison ministry that one of
> my friends from seminary runs,
> and it is very successful. I
> know someone there who really
> should not be, and there are
> probably countless others who
> have learned from their
> errors. These are people, too,
> and where there is life there
> is hope for change and
> rebirth. As for my innocent
> dog, no matter what my point
> for going is, his innocence
> wouldn't be compromised by the
> visit to the prison.
> For him it is an opportunity
> to work, end of story, and he
> will gladly blaze the trail
> with me if he is able to do
> so.
>
> Best,
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
> rg] On Behalf Of S L Johnson
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 6:02 PM
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> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: S L Johnson
> <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> I would never consider
> visiting  prison with or
> without my dog.  They are
> criminals and do not deserve
> to even look at my dog.  Keep
> your poor innocent dog away
> from the criminals.  Why
> should you feel sorry for
> someone
>
> who committed a crime?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sherry Gomes via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 6:52 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'
> Cc: Sherry Gomes ; 'Julie J.'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> The times I took my dog with
> me into prisons, it was
> emotional for the inmates, but
> they thanked me repeatedly and
> profusely for doing it. At San
> Quentin, when I went with my
> cousin to visit her husband,
> one time a woman came up to me
> and asked if her husband could
> pet my dog. She told me he
> hadn't seen a dog in fifteen
> years. He was in prison for
> life. I didn't ask why. I
> allowed him to pet my dog, and
> he cried and cried and thanked
> me over and over. It meant a
> lot to him to be able to pet a
> dog. The times I went with my
> singing group, nobody asked to
> pet my dog, but many inmates
> commented on her and how much
> they loved seeing her.
>
> Sherry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
> rg] On Behalf Of Julie J. via
> nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 4:43 PM
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> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Julie J.
> <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> I don't know about entering a
> prison with a guide.  In my
> last job, I used to have a
> couple of inmates from the
> women's prison come and talk
> to the
> class participants.    The
> only issue was that it was
> very emotional for
> some of the inmates.  They may
> not have seen a dog for many
> years.  One lady
>
> had to give up her dogs when
> she was sentenced.  She didn't
> know if they found homes or
> what happened to them.  Seeing
> my dog reminded her of all
> that pain.  She was in tears
> for most of the 1.5 hours they
> were there.
>
> I'm not saying to leave your
> guide behind, but just to  be
> aware that the
> presence of a dog could be an
> emotional issue.   It could be
> a positive
> thing or not, no way to know
> beforehand.  Of course none of
> this has anything what-so-ever
> to do with your legal rights
> in this situation.
>
> Julie
> Courage to Dare: A Blind
> Woman's Quest to Train her Own
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> ZSMOC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cindy Ray via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015
> 5:25 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the
> National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: [nagdu] Going to
> Prison.
>
> I am going to go to the
> women's pennitentury to help
> with a worship service.
> I am wondering about the dog,
> whether he will be welcome
> there. I did take a dog with
> me to the Shawnee County Jail
> in Topeka, Kansas, but since
> the minister isn't sure I can
> bring the dog, she is asking
> someone. I need to be
> prepared.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
> cindyray at gmail.com
> <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>
>
>
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