[nagdu] Going to Prison.

Wed Aug 12 01:21:34 UTC 2015

For your information, I am retired now but, I have worked in the human 
services field and in music ministries.  My guide dogs were always with me. 
We all have our own comfort levels and are all entitled to our own opinions. 
That doesn't make me a bad person any more than your opinion would make you 
one.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Julie J. via nagdu
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:13 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Julie J.
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Prison.

Sandra,
My last job was working with criminal offenders.  Never having my guide
around *those people* would have meant a lot less work for him.  What's the
point?

It's clear you do not or ever have worked in a human service field and
personally I think that's been a good choice for you.  I won't go into all
the misconceptions about *those people* because that is far off topic for
this list.  I do wish that you'd at least try to be supportive of people.
Cindy is a minister.  she is trying to do the right thing both for herself
and others.   She's asking for information and also support as she tries new
things and expands her work.  I think that's great.   I wish her all the
best as she moves forward with her dreams.

Julie
Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
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-----Original Message----- 
From: S L Johnson via nagdu
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:01 PM
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Cc: S L Johnson
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Prison.

I would never consider visiting  prison with or without my dog.  They are
criminals and do not deserve to even look at my dog.  Keep your poor
innocent dog away from the criminals.  Why should you feel sorry for someone
who committed a crime?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sherry Gomes via nagdu
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:52 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Sherry Gomes ; 'Julie J.'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Prison.

The times I took my dog with me into prisons, it was emotional for the
inmates, but they thanked me repeatedly and profusely for doing it. At San
Quentin, when I went with my cousin to visit her husband, one time a woman
came up to me and asked if her husband could pet my dog. She told me he
hadn't seen a dog in fifteen years. He was in prison for life. I didn't ask
why. I allowed him to pet my dog, and he cried and cried and thanked me over
and over. It meant a lot to him to be able to pet a dog. The times I went
with my singing group, nobody asked to pet my dog, but many inmates
commented on her and how much they loved seeing her.

Sherry

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J. via
nagdu
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:43 PM
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Cc: Julie J. <julielj at neb.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Going to Prison.

I don't know about entering a prison with a guide.  In my last job, I used
to have a couple of inmates from the women's prison come and talk to the
class participants.    The only issue was that it was very emotional for
some of the inmates.  They may not have seen a dog for many years.  One lady

had to give up her dogs when she was sentenced.  She didn't know if they
found homes or what happened to them.  Seeing my dog reminded her of all
that pain.  She was in tears for most of the 1.5 hours they were there.

I'm not saying to leave your guide behind, but just to  be aware that the
presence of a dog could be an emotional issue.   It could be a positive
thing or not, no way to know beforehand.  Of course none of this has
anything what-so-ever to do with your legal rights in this situation.

Julie
Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
available! Get the book here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXZSMOC
-----Original Message----- 
From: Cindy Ray via nagdu
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:25 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Cindy Ray
Subject: [nagdu] Going to Prison.

I am going to go to the women's pennitentury to help with a worship service.
I am wondering about the dog, whether he will be welcome there. I did take a
dog with me to the Shawnee County Jail in Topeka, Kansas, but since the
minister isn't sure I can bring the dog, she is asking someone. I need to be
prepared.

Thanks.

Cindy Lou Ray

cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>

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