[nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Fri Aug 21 23:43:49 UTC 2015

The reason John is keeping track of routes is that he has been told he needs to have three. 
Cindy Lou Ray
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via nagdu
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

				Many sighted people don't remember routes. They plug in their destination to gps and away they go. Is there a reason why you can't do this? I'd not waste the energy on remembering routes... let technology be your friend. I'd focus more on being safe and happy while you're out, not keeping track of routes in your head.

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of starmy22--- via nagdu
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi,
I'm starting to walk a route to a small store called Quality Dairy.
The person who agreed to help me is happy to do it.
Once I told him that Leader dog requires you to do three routes, they had said that they are not willing to help me with those because they don't have the time or the ability to do that.
This is a good friend of mine.
He is in his mid twenties.
I have a tough time remembering routes.
I'm slowly starting to work on that.
I had a seizure a long time ago.
I also had brain bleeds when I wsa born.
That did not help any.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

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From: The Pawpower Pack via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

John,
Not relying on Sighted people all the time is a great goal.  However, it may be better for you to use a cane and learn to rely upon yourself first.  A dog and person are a team.  Before you can direct a dog, you need to be able to know where you are and how to get where you want to go, and the only way to get good at that is to spend time with your cane and improve the skill of relying upon yourself and the tools you have so that you can become confident.

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> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:56 PM, starmy22--- via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> What I mean by that is not always relying on sighted people all the 
> time for guidance.
> I hope to hear from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: AlyssaHenson via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 PM
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> Cc: AlyssaHenson
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>
> When you say increase your independence, what exactly do you mean? 
> Remember, a dog isn't a cure all for o and m struggles. With that 
> being said, I can see how your answer could go in several directions. 
> I guess what I'm getting at here is it would be nice to know 
> specifically how you wish to utilize a dog to increase your independence.
> Alyssa and Melody
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:03 PM, starmy22--- via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> The reason why I'm wanting a dog is because my independence can be 
>> increased.
>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>> Sincerely,
>> John Sanders
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Star Gazer via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:03 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Star Gazer
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>
>> Also John, is it that you have nowhere to go, or that you just go 
>> using sighted assistance? The distinction matters and the latter 
>> option is fine in my book.
>> Finally, why do you want a dog? I ask this with all respect, what 
>> will a dog bring you and do you need/want it?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>> Carcione via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:46 PM
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>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>
>> Hi John.
>> Can you get into Lansing, and work there?
>> I don't want to be negative, but, if you have nowhere to go, what are 
>> you hoping to get from a dog?
>> Tracy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> starmy22--- via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:16 PM
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>> Cc: starmy22 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>
>> Hi,
>> I did find there program helpful.
>> The only issue I have is that; I'm not able to come up with three 
>> routes that I can perform as one of there requirements.
>> Because of the area I live in.
>> There is not a lot to do out where I live.
>> I live in Okemos Michigan.
>> It's a suberb of Lansing Michigan.
>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>> Sincerely,
>> John Sanders
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:10 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>
>> Good for you, John!  Did you find Leaders' mobility program helpful?
>> I know you had problems with the young dog you had before.  I wish 
>> you all success with this next attempt.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> starmy22--- via nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:54 AM
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>> Cc: starmy22 at gmail.com
>> Subject: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>
>> Hi my name is John Sanders.
>> I just wanted to let you know that  I have completed the training 
>> program for Mobility at Leader dog.
>> I’m now in the process of being admitted.
>> A Mobility Specialist is supposed to be stopping out to my home to do 
>> a video of me doing a full route.
>> The only thing is the weather.
>> It’s not going to be very nice today.
>> It’s supposed to be raining and thunder storming outside here in 
>> Michigan.
>> I hope I can be addmitted in to leader dog for getting a guide dog.
>> I didn’t have to go through the application process.
>> Because the school said that they would transfer my information over 
>> from the accelerated Mobility application that I had filled out.
>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>> Sincerely,
>> John Sanders
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