[nagdu] Just saw this: Guide dogs and athletes

Buddy Brannan buddy at brannan.name
Sat Aug 22 18:51:39 UTC 2015 

Sorry....what negativity? Many of the schools have said that we shouldn't run with our dogs. Some of us have done it anyway, and it's worked. The schools have said not to use moving sidewalks in airports. I have used them, seeing as how they're not anything more than a flat escalator. I merely stated that Pilot worked with at least one team so she could run cross country with their dog and feel GEB's claim is at least a little disingenuous. So...what negativity is it that you're seeing that I am not? 

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> On Aug 22, 2015, at 2:26 PM, margo and isis via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I've been running with three of my guide dogs and we had no problem.
> 
> Margo and Isis
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tina Thomas via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Just saw this: Guide dogs and athletes
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> I have never heard that running with your guide is unsafe. If the person is running long distance, then it could work. Now, I could see issues with a dog running short distances such as 100 meters. What is up with all of this negativity anyway. 
> JMO. 
> Tina  
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 6:24 AM
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> Cc: Danielle Sykora
> Subject: [nagdu] Just saw this: Guide dogs and athletes
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> This does seem rather contradictory since most guide dog programs have held the attitude that running with our guides is dangerous. From what I understand, all of the people that have run with there dogs decided to do so on their own and their dogs didn't receive any special training. I was given suggestions for running with my dog while in class by a couple instructors who definitely had had the same discussion with other people in the past. I wonder how many people actually run with their dogs, special training or not? Probably not many, but more than you would think...
> 
> Danielle and Thai
> On 8/22/15, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> It's dangerous for mere mortal humans and dogs, but, as you know, only 
>> extra super special dogs can be guides. Extra super duper special uber 
>> amazing dogs can be guides that run.
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>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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>>> On Aug 22, 2015, at 6:34 AM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am quite amused by this.  First the guide dog programs said that 
>>> running was dangerous with a guide.  Now they have a special program for it.
>>> Hmmmm...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Julie
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>>> -----Original Message----- From: Buddy Brannan via nagdu
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>>> Subject: [nagdu] Just saw this: Guide dogs and athletes
>>> 
>>> Pasted below is the article from PR Newswire. While Guiding Eyes 
>>> claims the first guide dog "certified" to work with an athlete, I 
>>> think Pilot would take issue with that claim, having trained a guide 
>>> to work with a high school cross country runner several years ago.
>>> They were on ESPN even, so it's kind of hard to dispute. Seriously, 
>>> if you're going to do PR, it would be really great to actually use factual information.
>>> 
>>> First Ever Guide Dog Certified To Assist Visually Impaired Runners
>>> 
>>> YORKTOWN HEIGHTS, N.Y., Aug. 19, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Klinger, a two 
>>> year-old German Shepherd, will make history this week by becoming the 
>>> first professionally trained running guide dog to assist an athlete 
>>> who is visually impaired. Klinger's placement marks the initiation of 
>>> the Running Guides pilot program at Guiding Eyes for the Blind—an 
>>> internationally accredited nonprofit that provides guide dogs to those with vision loss.
>>> With this, it is hoped a new expansion of the organization's 
>>> commitment to increasing independence for people with visual impairments will follow.
>>> 
>>> The Running Guides program, still in the developmental phase, was 
>>> established to support the underserved community of runners who are 
>>> visually impaired. "This pilot program is focusing on the feasibility 
>>> of selecting and specially training dogs for their partners on 
>>> approved exercise routes prior to being issued in class," said 
>>> Benjamin Cawley, class supervisor for Guiding Eyes for the Blind. "We 
>>> will continue to build our techniques and hope to one day shift from 
>>> an experimental pilot to a fully-implemented program."
>>> 
>>> Following a graduation ceremony on Saturday, August 22 at Guiding 
>>> Eyes for the Blind's campus in Yorktown Heights, Klinger will join 
>>> his new partner, Lt. Richard Hunter of San Francisco. It was while 
>>> serving in the United StatesMarine Corps that Hunter was diagnosed 
>>> with degenerative vision loss. Now an accomplished marathoner and 
>>> triathlete, his work with the United States Association of Blind 
>>> Athletes led to his collaboration with Guiding Eyes in organizing a 
>>> panel of blind runners to identify the specific needs and challenges 
>>> that a running guide dog program should address.
>>> 
>>> The challenge with training a guide dog to work at a running pace is 
>>> the speed at which they are working, which is why the Running Guides 
>>> curriculum utilizes specialized training techniques to ensure dogs 
>>> are able to provide clearance and guide work tasks reliably at higher speeds.
>>> The program has specifically addressed these and other concerns with 
>>> training that has seen Klinger login over 200 miles with sighted 
>>> trainers as well as those with vision loss.
>>> 
>>> For Hunter, Klinger's graduation will mark an upgrade in quality of 
>>> life, offering him a new sense of independence. "Being active and 
>>> pushing myself to the max is a passion of mine. Having Klinger by my 
>>> side to help in training will be a tremendous help," says Hunter.
>>> "And the best thing about having Klinger as a running buddy is that 
>>> he can't cancel on me at the last minute." The two will begin 
>>> training for the California International Marathon upon their arrival in California.
>>> 
>>> For more information on Klinger's graduation, the Running Guides 
>>> program or Guiding Eyes, visit https://www.guidingeyes.org/.
>>> 
>>> Guiding Eyes is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that provides 
>>> superbly bred and trained guide dogs to men and women who are blind 
>>> or visually impaired. Dogs not suited for guide work may become 
>>> service dogs for children on the autism spectrum. All Guiding Eyes 
>>> dogs expand horizons for people to achieve life's goals.
>>> 
>>> SOURCE Guiding Eyes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> RELATED LINKS
>>> http://www.guidingeyes.org
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