[nagdu] Trying to understand: denial of access bad allergies

Fri Aug 28 17:48:05 UTC 2015

Marion:

I have never had a problem getting a ride after letting them know I have qa 
guide dog.  I just hated driver's not knowing and then having a problem once 
they arrived at my home.  Also, I live in a suburb of Indianapolis.  There 
is not a local cab company so all cabs must come down from Indianapolis.  It 
would be very time consuming and cause many problems if I had problems with 
a driver.  The two companies I use both appreciate being told in advance so, 
that is what

-----Original Message----- 
From: Marion Gwizdala via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:13 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Marion Gwizdala
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Trying to understand: denial of access bad allergies

Sandra,

As you say, some of us will rush to our keyboards and I am one of
them. Advance notice does not serve you well as it creates a form of
discrimination referred to as unequal benefit. The dispatcher sends out a
message looking for a cab that will take a woman with a dog. No one bids on
the trip because they are given the choice and no one chooses to bid.

Then I call and do not tell them I have a dog and am questioned
about why I do not advise them in advance; after all, Sandra does. Once we
decide we will not be discriminated against and my right to be accompanied
by my service dog is protected by law, we will begin to resolve the issue of
discrimination. Companies do not have the choice of whether or not to serve
us any more than they have the choice of whether or not they will serve my
friend Terence because of his race. Until we demand our rights, our rights
will be trampled upon.

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:00 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: S L Johnson
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Trying to understand: denial of access bad allergies

Hi,

I avoid this problem by letting the cab company know I have a guide dog when
I call to request the ride.  I know, a lot of you are going to rush to your
keyboards to argue about this but, for me, I find that is what works best.
When they know in advance, the drivers can't claim they didn't know I had a
dog.  It also makes it easier for the driver to find me when I'm waiting
outside a busy business or office building.  I do the same when making any
reservations for bus, train or air travel.  Sometimes when we inform people
in advance, things go better for us in the end.

Sandra and Eva

-----Original Message-----
From: Aleeha Dudley via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:23 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Aleeha Dudley
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Trying to understand: denial of access bad allergies

I ask because many people have different perspectives on this matter. We are
not all the same. Some would choose to handle a situation differently, as
Daryl expressed. It is not a 2question that I ask lightly, nor is a question
I ask simply because I am offended at a little name calling. I spoke frankly
to that person and told him exactly what I thought. However, I want to
understand all that surrounds this topic. I want to be sensitive to
othersb?T conditions, as I would ask that they be of my blindness. I also
want to make sure I know all I can about this issue: from the scientific
data to the personal opinions, so that I might become a more well rounded,
more thoughtful human being.

> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> Who is telling you this and why do you care?
> I ask in all sincerity.
> Also, asking the list what it thinks on this topic as like asking the
> Budweizer company if you should have another beer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha
> Dudley via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 1:55 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [nagdu] Trying to understand: denial of access bad allergies
>
> Hello all,
> Can you guys weigh in on this? I have been severely criticized and
> called selfish for my opinion on this matter. This especially has to
> do with denial of access to uber vehicles, but could also have
> implications elsewhere.
> Let's start with a hypothetical situation. I request a ride with the
> uber app. As I do not think it is necessary, I do not inform the
> driver that I am accompanied by my dog. The driver shows up and says
> that they cannot take my dog because they or someone in their family
> has a severe allergy to dog dander, to the point that their throat
> closes up.
> In my opinion, this person shouldn't be driving anyway because anyone
> could be carrying pet dander on their clothing. My dog poses just as
> much a risk as the next person if my dog is well groomed. I believe
> that everyone should follow the law. Now, I'm told that this view
> makes me close minded and selfish. I have a similar view on fear of
> dogs. I'm told that we are all being close minded and spewing rhetoric
> when we talk about the uber lawsuit, but that is a topic for another
> post. What do you all think?
> Aleeha
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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