[nagdu] Trying to understand: denial of access bad allergies

[melissa R green]

Very well said about drivers
and allergies.  This is
something that we have brought
up at school is that we all
have dogs and cats, and its
all over our clothes.  No
matter what we do.  As for
personal things, I believe
that you need to pick your
battles.   

Warmly,
Melissa R. Green and Pj
It is 'where we are' that
should make all the
difference, whether we believe
we belong there or not. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015
9:19 PM
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National Association of Guide
Dog Users'
Cc: Cindy Ray
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Trying to
understand: denial of access
bad allergies

Folks, why are we worried
about the drivers who claim
allergies? When they
are hired, they have to know
they are going to be required
to take people in
their cabs with dogs. People
will often have  dander on
them even if they
never bring a dog into the
cab, so why should we pay the
price. It is the
dander that is causing the
allergy. Really, if they have
that serious an
allergy, they should probably
try for a different career
because they never
know when they will be
subjected to dander. And I'm
thinking those who are
allergic are mostly not going
to have you and the dog that
long in their
cab. I can see the rationale
of disclosing yet I wonder if
it is really
accomplishing what you want.
As for disclosing to the
airlines so that you won't get
an aisle seat, they
should change you to a window
seat anyway when you show up
with the dog
because dogs aren't supposed
to be in the aisle where they
are endangered. I
believe I read that in a
policy once, though I can sure
be corrected if I am
wrong. If you don't disclose
and you get there, they will
change your seat
if it is an aisle seat. I've
done it many times. If you
don't want to sit in
the bulkhead, then your best
shot at not sitting there is
to keep still
about the dog until you get to
the airport. I can't see being
apologetic
about it.
And then there is my personal
issue. My daughter doesn't
want me to bring my
dog to her place when I go
there in November. It's her
right to have me not
bring him, but the reason is
she will already have three
dogs. It may be a
moot point by then, but right
now it is not. I guess we all
do whatever we
have to do to protect
ourselves from feelings of
discomfort, emotions,
whatever. That's not meant as
a criticism, it's just the way
of it, and I
guess we all have to determine
if we are able to do some of
these things in
spite of what consequences
they might bring. It is hard
sometimes, and
sometimes you get
inconvenienced.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
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keeler
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Trying to
understand: denial of access
bad allergies

I'm so used to telling the cab
company about my wifes chair
and my dog that
it really doesn't matter much
to me. I usually get timely
rides. I also
don't want to have a guy show
up and refuse to take me on
the basis of
having a dog and have to go
and wait some more. I like
keepping us on record
in case something messes up.
For example, one time when my
wife briefly had
to be in a nursing home, I
called a cab home. I have
Holly on the standing
orders. Well, he picked me up
and complained that he had to
carry a dog the
whole way. He wasn't allergic
but just didn't like dogs!
Holly behaved
perfectly. I asked him why he
picked me up. I also asked him
if he saw the
order and the fact that I had
a service dog with me. He said
he did and it
said service animal. He didn't
know what kind of animal
though. He said for
all he knew it was a service
snake! Well, I replied that it
could have been
a service cobra and what would
he have done then! Anyway, I
explained that
if he knew that a service
animal was listed, he could
have bid on another
ride so, what was he
complaining about! I had put
her on the order and he
didn't seem to care when he
bid on it so, I figured he had
to live with it!
I knew that many drivers would
have taken that run because it
was a rather
long one. I could have gotten
many a driver who knew me. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu
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Phillips
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015
9:51 PM
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Cc: Debby Phillips
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Trying to
understand: denial of access
bad allergies

Hi Louise, but then people
would have to tell the
dispatch person that they
have a service dog, which I
personally don't have a
problem with.  You know
folks, if you are calling a
cab to go somewhere, it's true
the law is on our
side, they're supposed to take
us.  And many of you think
it's a terrible
thing to disclose that you
have a dog.  But wouldn't it
be fairer to the cab
company to let them know so
that they can send someone who
does not have
allergies, or the driver is so
terrified of our dog that he
or she can
hardly drive for fear of the
dog getting too close? 
Sometimes we need to use some
common sense.  It's true I
have the right not
to disclose.  But if the cab
arrives and the driver is
truly allergic to
dogs, I have wasted his or her
time, and am wasting mine as
the cab company
has to send someone else.  Or
Uber, or Lyft.

I once had a doctor who had
severe allergies to dogs.  The
first time I saw
her, I had my dog with me.
She opened the door, saw him,
and it was the one
and only time she acted in an
unprofessional manner.  She
rushed out
shouting, "Why is there a dog
in my room?" She apologized
and said that she
had to ask me not to bring the
dog into her exam room again.
Having gone
through dog allergies myself,
I totally understood where she
was coming
from, and either left my dog
home, or left him in the
waiting room with my
husband or a friend for the
remainder of the time she was
my primary care
physician.  We have rights,
but we also have a
responsibility, in my
opinion, to care about other
people.  Many of you don't
know what it's like
to have your throat be
scratchy all the time, nose
running, not able to
breathe well because of an
allergy to dog.  And some
allergy relief meds
make people sleepy.  So maybe
when calling a cab, telling
them isn't such a
bad idea.  Just my opinion.

It's a different matter when
you're hailing a taxi on the
city street.  I do
think it's rude and
inconsiderate for a taxi to
just pull away.  I
personally think if they can't
or won't pick someone up, they
should at
least have the courtesy to
pull up and 

tell the person that they're
calling another cab.     Debby
and 
Nova

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