[nagdu] Not vocalizing in the Halti? WAS Re: a goat

Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 30 01:08:14 UTC 2015 

It is like a gentle leader, accept it has more straps, and it also attaches to your dog’s collar. 
> On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have wondered this for a while, so I might as well ask. Is a halti like
> the gentle leader?
> Thanks.
> Cindy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven Tolliver
> via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 8:01 PM
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> Cc: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Not vocalizing in the Halti? WAS Re: a goat
> 
> Hi Daryl,,
> He can pant and drink water with the Halti. I would never use it as a
> muzzle. It is not tight around his head or muzzle at all.
> For some reason, the Halti cuts down on his impulsive behavior--his dog
> distraction and vocalizations at dogs and horses. Maybe it's in relation to
> the added pressure around his head and nose. Idk.
> I understand dogs will be dogs and sometimes bark at things. When it's
> drawn out and on a regular basis though, I use the Halti as a management
> tool. I'm not sure if the behaviors will ever go away, but if I can manage
> and minimize them by simply having him wear the Halti, I'll keep it up.
> 
> He doesn't just bark at dogs or horses once, he will do it repeatedly, in
> addition to lunging, growling, and howling. That sort of behavior is
> attention-getting and also embarrassing. With horses, it is a fear response,
> acting all "Quien es mas macho," to seem like he's not afraid when he really
> is. With other dogs, he does it because he wants to play with them. No
> matter the circumstance, it is inappropriate.
> --
> Raven
> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
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> 
> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or
> what you do.
> 
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> 
> On 8/29/15, Aleeha Dudley via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Dallas has barked in his gentle leader. He just is extremely vocal 
>> around other dogs. He barked at a plastic dog at the mall once, making 
>> my mother and I laugh hysterically.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Raven,
>>> Your story about the Golden Guy barking at the miniature horse statue 
>>> made me laugh out loud.
>>> 
>>> Once, not long after Jenny and I finished training, we went shopping 
>>> at Old Navy. I guess at this particular store (not sure about others) 
>>> there's a mannequin (dogequin?) of a dog.  This dogequin just stood 
>>> there and "stared" at Jenny for the two minutes my friend was reading 
>>> me the signs that showed what was on sale... and Jenny couldn't take 
>>> it any more.  She let out this one loud ""Woof!", and my friend burst 
>>> out laughing when she realized why. Jenny looked so sheepish after 
>>> that... never did bark at anything else like that, though she was 
>>> quite interested in the taxedermed firehouse dog in the New York
> firefighter museum.
>>> 
>>> You mentioned that the Golden Guy doesn't vocalize when wearing the 
>>> Halti... do you think it's because he can't open his mouth all the 
>>> way? Or just chooses not to?  either I have a very vocal dog 
>>> (possibly true) or I don't have a true Halti-brand Halti (also 
>>> possibly true), but if she really really wants to, she can vocalize while
> wearing a Hait.
>>> 
>>> Daryl
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:34:55 -0600 (MDT)
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a goat
>>> 
>>> The Golden Guy hates horses. I don't know if he was exposed to them 
>>> during puppyhood. But during the fall, I frequent apple orchards and 
>>> enjoy hayrides. The Golden Guy will bark and growl at the horses 
>>> pulling the hayrides.
>>> 
>>> He even knows when he sees fake horses. I went to a museum where 
>>> there was a gigantic bronze horse statue and a smaller replica. The 
>>> sculpture itself was too large for a dog to recognize as a horse. But 
>>> the replica, which was up on a 3-foot pedestal and was only 18 inches 
>>> tall itself, got a reaction out of him. He ran up to the replica, 
>>> jumped up and put his front paws on the pedestal, and started barking 
>>> at this tiny fake horse. This was all outside, and he was out of 
>>> harness, so it was funny. Very odd to see him break his stoic 
>>> demeanor in public, but still funny. He must really be afraid of them.
>>> When I'm around real horses now, I keep his Halti on so that he 
>>> doesn't vocalize. The horses don't care either way, but it's just 
>>> more professional of him to keep quiet.
>>> --
>>> Raven
>>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>>> www.1am-editing.com
>>> 
>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you 
>>> have or what you do.
>>> 
>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>> 
>>>> On 8/29/15, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Monty has been around goats, horses, sheep, cows, chickens and llamas.
>>>> He's
>>>> 
>>>> fine around all of them, except the llamas.  He's very scared of llamas.
>>>> Good thing it's pretty rare we come across them!
>>>> 
>>>> Jetta has been around cows, chickens and I think horses, but I can't 
>>>> remember for sure. She's fine with all of it. She does like to stop 
>>>> and look for a minute. I think because it's a new and interesting 
>>>> thing and she's trying to figure it out.
>>>> 
>>>> Julie
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Becky Frankeberger via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:12 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Cc: Becky Frankeberger
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] a goat
>>>> 
>>>> So here I am riding on the transit. We stop and someone says, "oh 
>>>> look they have their goats." My eyebrows go up. The lift get 
>>>> deployed and a kennel comes on hoisting, I assume goats. But they 
>>>> made no noise the entire time.
>>>> So how would your dog's react? Jake raised his head then sat up and 
>>>> put his head on my lap. Then shortly he lay down on his own.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Love this dog, I can take him anywhere.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Becky and Jake
>>>> 
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